Jm0311 said:
bighurt said:
looking forward to more updates on this. it sounds promising for sure, thinking about making the switch.
i'm on 1mg propecia (well, proscar split up into approx 1/5ths) and i'm really sick of the f-in sides. the 2% (or whatever Merck claims) that have sexual sides has to be way low from all the anecdotal evidence i hear. and it's not even just loss of libido, it's getting up to piss in the middle of the night, weak stream, etc. and it seems to me that the sides very gradually worsen over time. the good news, i went off it for about 2 weeks several months back and by about day 5, i felt 100% normal like i'd never been on it....so it's easily reversible. if nothing else, i have to at least drop down to 0.5mg per day.
i'd probably just go with the 15plus at night and stick with Rogaine foam in the morning for styling reasons (aside from the fact that it should be helping my hair loss, i actually just like the way the foam works to thicken up my hair
been on propecia for like 5-6 years and rogaine for about 2.
how long have you had sides for? why do you have a weak stream of piss? how does that interfere with that?
eh, "weak stream" might not have been the most apt description. it's more like it can be hard to get started. literally, sometimes i'm standing there for ten seconds before any comes out even though i have to piss.
i'm probably making it all sound a little worse than it is, but it's certainly not ideal. i don't think i noticed any sides for the first 3 years or so (definitely no sexual sides, the piss thing might've been there at a nominal level). even now, it's not like i can't "get it up" so to speak, but there is a noticeable difference that you probably can't understand unless you're on finasteride and had the same side effect.
anyway, like i said, it does seem to be 100% reversible. when i went off it for a couple of weeks a while back, all my sides were gone within the first week. and even now if i take a half dose for 3-4 days, i notice that the sides start decreasing.
like i said in an earlier post, the Q&A on minoxidil.com says that 15+ decreases DHT in the scalp by 40% whereas oral finasteride decreases it by 38%, so according to their claim, 15+ is actually MORE effective than oral finasteride.
i placed my order for 15+ yesterday and will start as soon as i get it. the way i look at it, it's not even going to cost me anything to add it to my regimen, b/c i'll be using it at night (when i normally would apply a second dose of rogaine foam), so it will cut down on my rogaine cost by 1/2 and hopefully should even allow me to reduce oral finasteride.
and again, according to the Q&A, you're only supposed to apply the 15+ (1 ml) once per day, so i'll do it at night (and keep using rogaine foam in the morning) and not have to worry about the sticky/greasy/styling problems.
my plan is to attempt to gradually decrease oral finasteride to maybe 0.25 or 0.50mg/day.