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Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by ZenHead, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Kenny's_Login

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    I'm 41 and I've tried many treatments -- some marginally effective, most cost prohibitive -- and I've learned that the effective ones consistently induce a shedding phase during the first two months.

    The fact that I've gone through a significant shed within the first 7 weeks of needling tells me that desirable results are likely. There's no improvement to report yet, but I'm familiar enough with my shedding patterns to know that growth is imminent.

    I'm using the Dr Pen A7, which is a pain in the *** because it's wired, but the speed is 17,000 per minute and the 12-pack needles are thin.

    https://gzekai.com/dermapen-drpen-ultima-a7-p00082p1.html

    I'm considering selling it for a wireless pen. I'm not considering a Derminator since I don't see the advantages and I don't think microtearing is the concern everyone thinks it is.
     
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    layabout Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Microtearing is just a concern if you're using it on your face for collagen and skin tightening. It's pretty irrelevant for us.
     
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    layabout Experienced Member My Regimen

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    holy f***. I need to start doing my temples.
     
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    Did my second session. I still don't have the technique down for using a pen. My hand eye coordination looking in a mirror is so bad. I try to do up and down, and it always turns into diagonal lol

    Those with a pen, do you just touch the tip down or do you press a bit? I feel like I'm being too gentle by just gliding it across
     
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    Anyone attempt to order the derminator and get a disclaimer about shipping delays during cold months? What the hell is that all about?
     
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    wilfred Established Member My Regimen

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    For me it's easier having the pen in one hand and holding my head with the other. I also think going by feel helps instead of the mirror sometimes.
     
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    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Oh my! Would you look at the f*****g time. 77DjMfg.jpg
     
  8. Pigeon

    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    Are you planning on moving to microneedling alone? You would be a perfect person to see if minoxidil gains stay/maintain with just needling.
     
  9. Bill_Russo

    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Alright! Second session is done.
    I applied more pressure than before. No changes in pain; still not bad at all. However, it was a blood spot party this time around.
    Looking forward to the third one.
     
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    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Oh, and yeah: pain wasn't bad, but needling the hairline makes me sneeze and I have strong *** sneezes. I think I broke a rib or two.
     
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    I don't see how intermittant fasting is connected to anything related to inflammation. Each needling session is creating acute inflammation. Many of the participants here reported after few needling session reduced dandruff and overall itchiness on the scalp which is common symptom in chronic inflammation. That's why in my opinion needling creates healthier enviroment for new hair growth.
     
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    albert Established Member My Regimen

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    I have good and bad news. Bad news is, microneedling alone seems to show extremely slow results (kind of expected) and the small improvements halted once I stopped using Minoxidil due to potential health concerns.

    The good news is, I will resume Minoxidil usage in about a week. It turned out that my chest pain was caused by something else totally unrelated (and luckily minor) and I was already treated and almost fully healed as of now.

    To give some more context, I used Minoxidil in the past with little results besides (probably) maintenance. I dropped it when I decided to buzz my hair. I used to tolerate it very well for years, no side effects whatsoever. So I should be fine when I resume usage again :)
     
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    9982 Established Member My Regimen

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    No, I only greyed at the sideburns and now beard is mostly grey. I can see some grey hairs mixed in on top now.
     

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    ha same here . Temples make me sneeze my *** off
     
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    kashmoney Established Member My Regimen

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    So I've started doing scalp massages with the Panasonic device alongside needling for the past 2 weeks. 2 4-minute sessions of massages every day and 1 microneedling session per week with 2.0 mm at medium setting with Dr. Pen. Also use minoxidil 1xper day at night. While it's still too early to talk about regrowth there are 2 interesting things I've noticed since starting massages.

    1. I've dealt with chronic dandruff and scalp itchiness since 6th grade. I've tried everything from head and shoulders, biz, apple cider vinegar, onion juice, etc. Nothing has worked. The closest thing to stopping it was finasteride when it did work for me. Since starting scalp massages, the dandruff and scalp itch have been completely eliminated. Literally have not had to deal with it since starting the massaging which is insane

    2. I've been dermarolling since November with little results alongside minoxidil. One thing I noticed when using the pen was that while I'd get erythema and pain, I'd never get any blood spots at all. Since starting the massages, the two dermapen sessions I've done have actually caused some blood spots to appear and it seems like the rolling is actually more painful. Idk if it's a good thing but it's something different.

    While it's only been 2 weeks, my scalp feels healthier and I feel like I might actually be feeling some more hairs on my crown which is pretty barren. I will continue taking multiple pics of my scalp and observing for changes but hopefully these are some positive changes and means something is happening
     
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    Intermittent fasting puts the body into optimum "repair mode", so to speak. Yes, wounding does indeed cause inflammation - but we wound to induce our body's healing response, that's where the benefit supposedly comes from for our hair.

    If intermittent fasting boosts our ability to heal, it stands to reason that the body may be able to repair the wounds more effectively and efficiently if I.F. is implemented. It'd be interesting to find out.
     
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    4th session today. Wasn't that bad this time. But at the moment I'm shedding a ton of hair.
     
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    Anyone who wears a hat after needling? Might be a ridiculous question, but I want to avoid irritating my scalp as much as I can (but a hat in this weather is pretty much essential).
     
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    does anyone actually get terminal hairs from this? so here is what I noticed, I think I have gained a lot of very thin very weak vellus hairs but recently I observed one terminal hair right were my scalp used to be bald. I wonder whether this is just a random occurrence or whether the needling has caused it and more importantly, how it can be reproduced.

    from my understanding and from what follica is trying to do, these terminal hairs should stay on top as long as their cycle is, potentially even longer since they have not been damaged by high levels of DHT during puberty and earlier life. so if you have in fact created a new hair follicle, it would be resistant to DHT for at least a couple of years even if you discontinue needling.

    but I also read a paper that say hair neogenesis is humans work very different than in mice and something is preventing what I just described. but I don't know.
     
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    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I do and have no problem. I think you'll be fine!
     
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