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So sorry for you man! It is good that you are seeing a doctor, although doctors can sometimes be quite ignorant or unknowing (unless you are seeing a specialist). I am not a doctor and are not going to pretend to be one, but this looks like the typical diffuse hairloss that can be observed in hypothyroid patients. Did you check thyroid lab values? Lab values of T3, T4, fT3, fT4, rT3, TSH, antibodies do not always give the whole picture. High rT3/fT3 ratio does say something about (non)-utilization of T3 by cells. Most doctors only check TSH which is completely ridiculous (including the so-called 'healthy' range). But again, check with your doctor. What does he/she think? To be honest, this does not look like Androgenetic Alopecia at all to me. Wishing you best of luck!
Androgenic alopecia may have a different pattern, but it remains androgenic
 

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As far as proper nutrition is concerned, I recently gave up dairy and wheat products. Added tofu, nuts, lots of fish and other goodies for hair.
It's too early to tell, but it does make you feel better.
 

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Gergely your crown is the best crown i have ever seen on this site!! Can you do me a favor and post a before picture to see the difference?? The only word i have to describe your crown is excellent!!
 

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Gergely your crown is the best crown i have ever seen on this site!! Can you do me a favor and post a before picture to see the difference?? The only word i have to describe your crown is excellent!!
I don't think I have any. I was more concerned about my receding hairline at the time
 

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It is unlikely, more likely complained to the moderators on it.
By the way not everyone licked her ***, but you seemed to get along with her in the beginning))
There is no administration on this forum. The only way to get banned is to send a report to yourself
I spoke to her normally for a while, because I was afraid that they would start to consider me a transphobic, as it already was. I also assumed that my problems with English might be the cause of the misunderstanding. But when I began to see photos and pissed-off answers, everything became clear to me
 

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Я случайно познакомился с одним человеком ,он спросил меня что мне делать чтобы отрастить волосы,этот человек был полностью лысый,старый для своего возраста,он мне прислал свои фото 10 летний давности ,у него там отличные волосы.Я спросил а что вы любите больше всего ,что в вашем рационе из продуктов.Он ответил что он очень любит сладкие газированные напитки.Он их пьет постоянно!
I've had the same experience as you, my hair gets less greasy and feels stronger at the roots when I don't eat refined carbs and sugar. There are studies that show eating anything that spikes your blood sugar increases alpha 5 reductase and therefore, DHT, while fasting has the opposite effect. I have stated the importance of diet here before, but others disagree with it's importance as they achieve results with HRT alone. When I first started HRT I was on a strict, low calorie diet with no sugar (minimal salt and fat) and no refined carbs. My hair deteriorated when I dropped the diet, and I lost all of my gains. Since starting the diet again, my hair feels healthy so I can say for sure, that in this case, diet can negatively effect hair.
It makes me think, I was addicted to sugar as a child, maybe this is what started the hairloss?
I think anyone who doesn't achieve results from HRT should examine their diet.
 

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I've had the same experience as you, my hair gets less greasy and feels stronger at the roots when I don't eat refined carbs and sugar. There are studies that show eating anything that spikes your blood sugar increases alpha 5 reductase and therefore, DHT, while fasting has the opposite effect. I have stated the importance of diet here before, but others disagree with it's importance as they achieve results with HRT alone. When I first started HRT I was on a strict, low calorie diet with no sugar (minimal salt and fat) and no refined carbs. My hair deteriorated when I dropped the diet, and I lost all of my gains. Since starting the diet again, my hair feels healthy so I can say for sure, that in this case, diet can negatively effect hair.
It makes me think, I was addicted to sugar as a child, maybe this is what started the hairloss?
I think anyone who doesn't achieve results from HRT should examine their diet.
Sweets and fatty foods are crap, I gave that up too.
 
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Sweets increase the oily skin and cause acne, but in my case, this does not apply to all types of sweets. If I consume natural sweets in normal amounts, then everything is fine. Just don't overdo it and keep an eye on the composition of the products
Sweets are somehow related to the skin and sebaceous glands: apparently, it is associated with androgen receptors. But this is a short-term action, just do not eat sweets all the time, a small portion will not harm
A lot of sweets should be discarded not only because of the hair
 

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Sweets increase the oily skin and cause acne, but in my case, this does not apply to all types of sweets. If I consume natural sweets in normal amounts, then everything is fine. Just don't overdo it and keep an eye on the composition of the products
Sweets are somehow related to the skin and sebaceous glands: apparently, it is associated with androgen receptors. But this is a short-term action, just do not eat sweets all the time, a small portion will not harm
A lot of sweets should be discarded not only because of the hair
I agree, although I think it varies from person to person. Sugar also causes collagen to breakdown and fine lines to appear. I used to work with someone my age, and all he would eat was sugar, and it showed. His hair was also very receded (nw3.5) which is bad for a 20 year old.
 

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So sorry for you man! It is good that you are seeing a doctor, although doctors can sometimes be quite ignorant or unknowing (unless you are seeing a specialist). I am not a doctor and are not going to pretend to be one, but this looks like the typical diffuse hairloss that can be observed in hypothyroid patients. Did you check thyroid lab values? Lab values of T3, T4, fT3, fT4, rT3, TSH, antibodies do not always give the whole picture. High rT3/fT3 ratio does say something about (non)-utilization of T3 by cells. Most doctors only check TSH which is completely ridiculous (including the so-called 'healthy' range). But again, check with your doctor. What does he/she think? To be honest, this does not look like Androgenetic Alopecia at all to me. Wishing you best of luck!
Hey! I actually checked everything properly 2 times with 2 different endocrinologist. :) man, thanks for all this! Gotta keep ya'll updated!
 

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У меня был тот же опыт, что и у вас, мои волосы становятся менее жирными и становятся сильнее у корней, когда я не ем рафинированные углеводы и сахар. Есть исследования, которые показывают, что употребление всего, что повышает уровень сахара в крови, увеличивает альфа-5-редуктазу и, следовательно, ДГТ, в то время как голодание имеет противоположный эффект. Я уже говорил о важности диеты здесь раньше, но другие не согласны с ее важностью, поскольку они достигают результатов только с помощью ЗГТ. Когда я впервые начал ЗГТ, я придерживался строгой низкокалорийной диеты без сахара (с минимальным количеством соли и жира) и без рафинированных углеводов. Мои волосы испортились, когда я отказался от диеты, и я потерял все свои достижения. С тех пор, как снова села на диету, мои волосы стали здоровыми, поэтому я могу точно сказать, что в этом случае диета может негативно повлиять на волосы.
Это наводит на мысль, что в детстве я пристрастился к сахару, может, это и стало причиной облысения?
Я думаю, что любой, кто не достигает результатов от ЗГТ, должен пересмотреть свою диету.
Я думаю это есть причина нашей настоящей проблемой!Рафинированные углеводы влияют на концентрацию андрогенов в крови через уменьшение концентрации гспг печени.Конечно питание на згт тоже надо менять!Вырезать рафинированные продукты из рациона!
 

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can you explain the role of hspg in hair loss? I've tried googling it but it all seems very complex, maybe you could give a simplified explanation?
Я думаю это есть причина нашей настоящей проблемой!Рафинированные углеводы влияют на концентрацию андрогенов в крови через уменьшение концентрации гспг печени.Конечно питание на згт тоже надо менять!Вырезать рафинированные продукты из рациона!
 

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Можете ли вы объяснить роль hspg в выпадении волос? Я пробовал погуглить, но все кажется очень сложным, может быть, вы могли бы дать упрощенное объяснение?
Гспг связывает андрогены чтобы они не могли соединится с рецептором волос и осуществить свое влияние.Высокий гспг-нет свободных андрогенов и вы не будете лысеть,низкий гспг облысение.
 

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Можете ли вы объяснить роль hspg в выпадении волос? Я пробовал погуглить, но все кажется очень сложным, может быть, вы могли бы дать упрощенное объяснение?
Повысить гспг можно двумя способами это спиронолактон препарат для феменизации используется трансгендерами, либо эстрадиол в таблеточной форме,либо гелевая форма
 

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Иди нахуй долбаклюй
Thanks for the response, it's the first time hearing hspg's role in hairloss, I guess an underlooked aspect of it.
Also, just ignore the trolls, it's a new account so it's obviously just someone trying to mess with you (probably someone who already lurks/posts here)
 
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Thanks for the response, it's the first time hearing hspg's role in hairloss, I guess an underlooked aspect of it.
Also, just ignore the trolls, it's a new account so it's obviously just someone trying to mess with you (probably someone who already lurks/posts here)
Я проведу эксперемент ,буду пользоваться Андрогель и за это время у меня не будет в моем рационе сладкого,алкоголя,кофеина.Эксперемент будет длиться 30 дней.
 
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