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whatevr

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It's very expensive, but cb0301 might be what you need, maybe together with ru.

It has no side effects and is almost as strong as ru.

That is definitely not what I heard considering anecdotal reports on forums.

What I heard is = weaker than RU with weaker side effects.
 

Grasshüpfer

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That is definitely not what I heard considering anecdotal reports on forums.

What I heard is = weaker than RU with weaker side effects.

Well yeah. You can put it like that. But maybe 50/50 longterm could be something for you.

Or three days ru, two days cb.

Still looks like I'm maintaining, but man this sh*t is straining my nerves. Anytime I could realize that I'm in fact not maintaining or that my dick went overboard. :/
 

whatevr

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Well yeah. You can put it like that. But maybe 50/50 longterm could be something for you.

Or three days ru, two days cb.

Still looks like I'm maintaining, but man this sh*t is straining my nerves. Anytime I could realize that I'm in fact not maintaining or that my dick went overboard. :/

I know what you mean. RU makes me brainfogged, unmotivated, hampers my workouts and lowers my libido.
I shouldn't even touch an antiandrogen, but I have to if I want any hope for my hair...

f*****g sh*t meds.
 

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what i like about that btt guy is his experience with finasteride

i read the thread a while ago but im pretty sure finasteride made him feel like dog sh*t, maybe ru aswell, but this enza stuff gave him no side at all

after his experience with finasteride, he would surely recognize any kind of sides with taking these f*****g meds but apparently he doesnt get any.

im very wary to try anything hormonal again, but f*** it. if a bunch of guys here report success its tempting to take a shot with it
 

whatevr

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what i like about that btt guy is his experience with finasteride

i read the thread a while ago but im pretty sure finasteride made him feel like dog sh*t, maybe ru aswell, but this enza stuff gave him no side at all

after his experience with finasteride, he would surely recognize any kind of sides with taking these f*****g meds but apparently he doesnt get any.

im very wary to try anything hormonal again, but f*** it. if a bunch of guys here report success its tempting to take a shot with it


Yeah, you're right. He said:

I havent side effects using RU.
With finasteride is different , I didnt notice sexual side effects , but I had brain fog and similar problems.I think that it affect brain.During and after Finasteride caused me few depression , anxiety , feeling retarded.......

And then when asked about side effects of enzalutamide he said:

Any sides , i only use 3 times in 15 days

That's what makes me hopeful. Also lol @ the 'feeling retarded' bit. That's kinda how I felt on finasteride as well.
 

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I came across this thread and thought it might interest you.

http://hairlosshelp.net/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=36075

While interesting, I've had hypothyroidism since 2012, and I started taking Finasteride in 2015, and quit in 2016.

I also didn't experience a worsening of hypothyroid symptoms when I was taking it, so I think the connection is overblown in this case.
Nevertheless, I don't plan on ever going back on Finasteride because it did me far more harm than good.
 

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Just getting by on RU / minoxidil until starting up the MDV3100 regimen. Still NW2, but thinner than before.

Estradiol is out of the game for the foreseeable future.

you found your best dosage/frequency to avoid sides?

i may try ru soon
 

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@whatevr Does the Life Flo Health Biestro-Care with Estriol and Estradiol help or cause hairloss? I've read about the combination of estriol/estradiol being anti-estrogen. Is there an online source of pure estradiol cream? Would Estriol by itself be helpful for male pattern baldness?
 

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@whatevr Does the Life Flo Health Biestro-Care with Estriol and Estradiol help or cause hairloss? I've read about the combination of estriol/estradiol being anti-estrogen. Is there an online source of pure estradiol cream? Would Estriol by itself be helpful for male pattern baldness?

Estriol should act anti-estrogenically in the presence of estrogen, which in theory would be bad for hair, but there have been a few people throughout the years that claimed it was helpful.

When I use estriol alone I feel more energetic and my libido increases, this suggests increased androgen ratio (antiestrogenic).

The reasons I stopped using estrogens are obvious - libido issues and gynecomastia etc.

Hopefully a strong enough AA like Enzalutamide will be enough for me.
 

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mate have you not thought about lowering the dosgaes...doing 10/20mg instead?

i remember reading posts a while ago from guys very knowledgeable about ru on other forums saying 10/20 is more than enough. espec with short hair like you have

You referring to El_Duterino
 

Nadester

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Man it I'd be great if someone confirm that low doses of 20-40mg work.

Would save ton as I'm from India and they price I have to buy it is ridiculous as of now for me.

Alsp, does anyone think the price of RU58841 would be going down??
Remember back in 2011-11 it was much more costly.
 

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Quick question, when you were on estradiol/alpicort F did you have any serious initial shedding? I have tried topical estriol on temples and nothing much happened. Thinking of trying estradiol just to help thicken the temples up. But, I have read in a quite a few places that whilst estrogen is seen as having a protective role in male pattern baldness, topical application can cause hair follicles to enter catagen and stay in telogen phase for longer. At the moment I am maintaining well and am happy with results. Don't mind a bit of shedding but if I start using it and have massive shed it might look like I am using progress.
 

whatevr

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@whatevr
Quick question, when you were on estradiol/alpicort F did you have any serious initial shedding? I have tried topical estriol on temples and nothing much happened. Thinking of trying estradiol just to help thicken the temples up. But, I have read in a quite a few places that whilst estrogen is seen as having a protective role in male pattern baldness, topical application can cause hair follicles to enter catagen and stay in telogen phase for longer. At the moment I am maintaining well and am happy with results. Don't mind a bit of shedding but if I start using it and have massive shed it might look like I am using progress.

I don't remember having an initial shed, in fact my shedding went down pretty quickly when I started, if I recall. And from there on gradual but steady regrowth for about 2 months which then peaked.
 

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@whatevr wassup man whats been your experience of ru so far then?

you saying its losing its effectiveness?

whats dosages/frequency you doing right now?
 
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