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dezertfox

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Since December '15. I might've skipped a day here or there, and there were days where I applied only once per day instead of twice as usual, but generally speaking, yes, I've used it the entire time since then.



Finasteride slowed down my hair loss but didn't give regrowth. I was still steadily losing ground. My Minoxidil results were even better in April than they are now.

The main reason I had to drop Finasteride was due to increasing gyno, hence switching to RU. Hopefully RU will be enough and if not then I will have to take Finasteride alongside an aromatase inhibitor. Obviously RU would be preferable because taking AI's for a long time just to counter the effects of finasteride would be bad for my body and I'd rather not do that long term.
did ru work for you??
 

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It just keeps getting better. Batshit bananas insane, as someone here put it.
My hair quality has changed so much since late August I can barely recognise my own scalp.
And especially in the past 2-3 weeks, it's starting to take on more and more qualities of the head of hair I had when I was 18.
The hair is so damn frizzy after washing, I almost broke my plastic comb trying to go through it just now. Also something I haven't experienced in ages, when I comb my hair it's making static electricity. I actually turned off all the lights and combed my hair and I can see faint lightning bolts as I go through my head. I wish I was making this sh*t up. It's like Zeus itself lives in it.
If you look at the pic above, even with this extremely harsh lighting, it only looks mildly diffused. What is currently happening is that it seems like not all of the hairs on my scalp are yet in anagen, so there are some "empty " spots, but if you look at the hairs which are there and growing, they're thick as hell. Something I believe related to the static that my hair is now exhibiting is that it has a tendency to stand upright on its own. For example look at that whirl just between the crown and mid-scalp. The hair just comes together in the middle like that and stands upright on its own (kind of reminds me of the stegosaurus's back) - I can't even comb it down. The hairs are so healthy and strong they just hold themselves upright with their own electrical field. Madness. If you look at my early pictures there you can see it always fell down and forward along the scalp.
So, the hair diameters all over the head are greatly increased, now we're just waiting for the hair counts to follow, along with reversal of the recession along the front. The crown is in very good shape already.

Overall in most average lighting conditions I doubt the majority of people can even tell I was ever balding. In another 2-3 months I can sign off of this forum. (Not that I'm going to do that mind you, I love you guys, this is a second home to me :D) This cutesy 18 year old was checking me out today - I don't even know how to deal with that anymore ffs. It's been way too long of me being an invisible ghost due to my hair ...

So, yeah, enough of me talking about crazy sh*t. The regimen, as is, is unchanged. Alpicort used every other day. I read somewhere that estrogen takes around 30 hours to clear the receptors. That's why I use it every other day. Nearly ALL of the estrogenic side effects (fat redistribution) have reversed since I reduced the frequency, and the results are still coming in steadily, so, it doesn't seem to be necessary to use it more than 3 times a week.
I apply Ketoconazole 2-3 hours before, let it soak in very well for 40-60 minutes. Hit those androgen receptors hard. Then finish 'em with an estradiol fatality.

That's it for now.
 

whatevr

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Lol, don't bump this thread. The results here are long gone... estrogen is not something to play around with in the long run, unfortunately (if you view yourself as a male and want to stay that way).
 

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Lol, don't bump this thread. The results here are long gone... estrogen is not something to play around with in the long run, unfortunately (if you view yourself as a male and want to stay that way).
I remember reading about the sides you encountered from estrogen. Do you recall the dose you were using?
 

whatevr

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I remember reading about the sides you encountered from estrogen. Do you recall the dose you were using?

Alpicort F was 5 mg of estradiolbenzoate per 100 ml. At a dose of 2-3 ml daily, that's between 0.1 and 0.15 mg of estradiol.

Estradiol is absorbed through the skin and released into the blood stream in metered doses through a rate-controlling membrane. This results in a stable concentration of serum estradiol and avoids first-pass metabolism.33,34The system administers estradiol at a controlled rate of 0.025 mg daily, 0.05 mg daily, or 0.1 mg daily.
https://www.cadth.ca/media/pdf/250_costbenefit_HRT_tr_e_.pdf

So, essentially, that's pretty much a HRT dosage of Estradiol. Of course, you still have androgens so it's not really an HRT regimen. I think my results with this stuff were probably greatly amplified by becoming very androgen-insensitive after quitting Finasteride a month prior. That explains why nobody could really replicate my results with Alpicort F.
 

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Lol, don't bump this thread. The results here are long gone... estrogen is not something to play around with in the long run, unfortunately (if you view yourself as a male and want to stay that way).
You had good results with minoxidil.

Do you still continue with that? Or do anything at all for you hair?
 

whatevr

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You had good results with minoxidil.

Do you still continue with that? Or do anything at all for you hair?

Not much worth using if you can't handle anti-androgens. I use needling, a strong LED device and estriol. Doesn't stop it but slows things down. Won't touch any AA until CB-03-01 comes out.

Got fed up with minoxidil as well - I looked like a frog and applying that sh*t twice a day wasn't something I wanna keep doing. Didn't lose all that much hair when I quit either. My problem is mainly the frontal third, the rest of my hair seems to be maintaining reasonably well with what I'm doing. I'm thinking more and more about a transplant for that area, that would keep me within my tolerable looks threshold for probably enough years until a better solution comes along.
 

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Not much worth using if you can't handle anti-androgens. I use needling, a strong LED device and estriol. Doesn't stop it but slows things down. Won't touch any AA until CB-03-01 comes out.

Got fed up with minoxidil as well - I looked like a frog and applying that sh*t twice a day wasn't something I wanna keep doing. Didn't lose all that much hair when I quit either. My problem is mainly the frontal third, the rest of my hair seems to be maintaining reasonably well with what I'm doing. I'm thinking more and more about a transplant for that area, that would keep me within my tolerable looks threshold for probably enough years until a better solution comes along.
Yeah, looking at your pics a transplant would be perfect for you.

And estriol? Isn't that also dangerous for you endocrine system? No side effects from that?

Btw, why not use RU, works the same way as CB but I doubt CB is also sideless, or is there a big difference between CB and RU?
 

whatevr

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Yeah, looking at your pics a transplant would be perfect for you.

And estriol? Isn't that also dangerous for you endocrine system? No side effects from that?

Btw, why not use RU, works the same way as CB but I doubt CB is also sideless, or is there a big difference between CB and RU?

I don't have any bad experiences with estriol, if anything I feel a bit better on the days that I take it haha.

RU can go to hell. It doesn't make any appreciable difference - I've used up to 100mg daily, and other than giving me dark circles under the eyes and poor sleep, I'm not sure that it helps with anything.

CB is supposed to metabolize into a non-antiandrogen when it hits the bloodstream. That's the theory anyway. I guess we'll find out.
 
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