Whatevr's Success Story - With Timeline

hairblues

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Wow thats fantastic result.
 

buckthorn

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you lucky bastard
 

diffuse_thinner

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...And I'm all out of gum!

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HIGH RES HAIRLINE (CLICK TO ENLARGE)

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REGIMEN HISTORY

Finasteride 1.25 mg: May 2015 - Jul 2016
(abandon due to gyno, may return with AI or Tamox)
Kirkland Minoxidil 5%: Dec 2015 >>>
Ketoconazole: May 2016 >>>
Finasteride (topical 0.002%): Jul 2016 >>>
(may abandon)
Alpicort F [Estradiolbenzoate, Prednisolone, Salicylic Acid]: 31 Aug 2016 >>>

COMING SOON...


RU58841 (50 or 75 mg daily)
TM30089
????

That's all for now :)
Excellent results, Whatevr. To what extent do you think Alpicort F has contributed?
 

cyrusthegreat@hotmail.com

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Dude, seriously. Congrats.

This can't all be minoxidil and keto. Are you fearing loss now that you're off oral finasteride? May be a wise choice to start RU sooner than later to keep your gains.
 

Roberto_72

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;);););););););)

Hurrah!
 

whatevr

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Are you sure you didnt have a few thousand grafts put in there?

Unless someone kidnapped me and subjected me to an involuntary hair transplant - not that I know of! :)

Excellent results, Whatevr. To what extent do you think Alpicort F has contributed?

Good question. Hard to say, I've only been using it for 3 weeks. I think that my hair hasn't really gotten worse in that time, that much I can say. I believe I'm also seeing some improvement at the sides of the forelock, as these areas are a bit less 'see-through' under harsh light than they used to be. I believe the estradiol can definitely give regrowth, but I wouldn't rely on it alone as it's a fairly low dose in this lotion, hence I will still add anti-androgens to the regimen just to be safe. But, it would also be interesting just how much the lotion could help over a span of, say, 6 months. Of course, it's likely going to work much better with anti-androgens in the mix.

Potentially, in the future, I might also experiment with an estrogen cream like this:
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health-Bi-Estro-Care-Body-Cream-4-oz-113-4-g/23751

Alpicort F has corticosteroids and generally isn't recommended as a long term treatment for use longer than a few months, so I will be looking for a replacement for that eventually.

Dude, seriously. Congrats.
This can't all be minoxidil and keto. Are you fearing loss now that you're off oral finasteride? May be a wise choice to start RU sooner than later to keep your gains.

I would say minoxidil is responsible for most of the results, the Keto was only added 2-3 months ago.
Right now I would say that I'm maintaining despite not being on finasteride, but I'm not going to test that theory, and...
The RU I already ordered and should hopefully start with next week, so I am not leaving anything to chance.
If I can convince my Doctor to let me run an aromatase inhibitor or tamoxifen, I might add Finasteride back into the mix as well, although to be fair, if I can get away with just topicals, I'd prefer that.
 
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michel sapin

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you use liquid minoxidil ? do you massage it or just let it soak ? you apply the minoxidil to your whole head or just hairline ? fantastic result man you are lucky
 

whatevr

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you use liquid minoxidil ? do you massage it or just let it soak ? fantastic result man you are lucky

Hi, yes most of the regrowth is from minoxidil (liquid). I used Finasteride alone for 6 months and had zero regrowth and slightly further thinning.

I usually massage the minoxidil into my scalp for a minute or two. Works best when you have shorter hair (<2 cm).
With longer hair you probably want to precisely part it and apply minoxidil between it so that as little as possible gets wasted on the hair.
 

michel sapin

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yes i really feel it works better with short hair , but with liquid minoxidil ive got a lot of white flakes , that looks weird with short hair .
 

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Awesome whatever....seriously. Awesome f*****g job
 

transam

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How long have you been using minoxidil again?...and did you ever start & stop with minoxidil?...or was it always consistent?
 

buckthorn

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These results are incredible and I am truly happy for you. HOW are you sure that it isn't the finasteride that's working in conjunction with the minoxidil? A lot of people will see regrowth on finasteride around 6-10 months, so is it possible the minoxidil is fooling you and finasteride is doing a lot of the heavy lifting? I am just saying man, I would be scared as f*ck to drop finasteride now.
 

whatevr

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How long have you been using minoxidil again?...and did you ever start & stop with minoxidil?...or was it always consistent?

Since December '15. I might've skipped a day here or there, and there were days where I applied only once per day instead of twice as usual, but generally speaking, yes, I've used it the entire time since then.

These results are incredible and I am truly happy for you. HOW are you sure that it isn't the finasteride that's working in conjunction with the minoxidil? A lot of people will see regrowth on finasteride around 6-10 months, so is it possible the minoxidil is fooling you and finasteride is doing a lot of the heavy lifting? I am just saying man, I would be scared as f*ck to drop finasteride now.

Finasteride slowed down my hair loss but didn't give regrowth. I was still steadily losing ground. My Minoxidil results were even better in April than they are now.

The main reason I had to drop Finasteride was due to increasing gyno, hence switching to RU. Hopefully RU will be enough and if not then I will have to take Finasteride alongside an aromatase inhibitor. Obviously RU would be preferable because taking AI's for a long time just to counter the effects of finasteride would be bad for my body and I'd rather not do that long term.
 

whatevr

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Some people have expressed the idea that I am now NW0, unfortunately that's not quite the case. I uploaded a 3rd hairline photo with my hair swept up and wet from Minoxidil, there you can see the damage on the temples that I have yet to recover.

You can also see the very fine, silver hairs just along the edges of the hairline - these are the result of estrogen and appeared in the past 3 weeks since adding Alpicort F. Hope I can make them terminal!
 

Roberto_72

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You should be a case study because such a recovery in such a short time is seen rarely.
I would make this success story sticky ;)
 
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