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whatevr

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@whatevr wassup man whats been your experience of ru so far then?

you saying its losing its effectiveness?

whats dosages/frequency you doing right now?

At ~75 mg daily I had some initial regrowth and maintenance after that, but the sides after 2-3 consecutive days were pretty bad. I would be so tired and anxious I just couldn't function.

At 50 mg I can do 4-5 days but the sides also seem cumulative and the effectiveness is such that I don't maintain but only slow it down.
 

INT

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*Bumping this thread to see if other people have been trying the estradiol/estriol approach*

How are things going for you atm @whatevr?
 

whatevr

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*Bumping this thread to see if other people have been trying the estradiol/estriol approach*

How are things going for you atm @whatevr?

Pretty sh*t. My hair looks a fair bit worse than it did back then. I'm using racemic equol and waiting to try out Brotzu lotion I guess.
 

INT

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Pretty sh*t. My hair looks a fair bit worse than it did back then. I'm using racemic equol and waiting to try out Brotzu lotion I guess.

Sorry to hear... What is your current regime? Have you ever considered using alpicort with test boosters such as pine pollen btw? Correct me if I am wrong but you started losing alpicort ground when you started implementing AI's, right? Maybe you will have better luck boosting your T instead of lowering your E.
 

whatevr

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Sorry to hear... What is your current regime? Have you ever considered using alpicort with test boosters such as pine pollen btw? Correct me if I am wrong but you started losing alpicort ground when you started implementing AI's, right? Maybe you will have better luck boosting your T instead of lowering your E.

I'm not on AIs. I just had to drop Alpicort due to sides like gyno and my dick not really working at all. I can't take that long term, it's impossible.

I'm using racemic equol in liposomes every other day, and minoxidil. It greatly slows down hair loss but I think I am still losing, and it has side effects of its own. I'm hoping to switch to something better soon but we'll see how things turn out.
 

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I'm not on AIs. I just had to drop Alpicort due to sides like gyno and my dick not really working at all. I can't take that long term, it's impossible.

I'm using racemic equol in liposomes every other day, and minoxidil. It greatly slows down hair loss but I think I am still losing, and it has side effects of its own. I'm hoping to switch to something better soon but we'll see how things turn out.
What are the side effects of racemic equal in liposomes?
 

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Btw @whatevr. Was it still working for you by the time you stopped? Read over the entire thread in the last days but it is not clear to me if you quit because of the sides or also because it was no longer working for you...


Also, I saw that you have used bi-estro too. How was this working for you, regarding efficacy and side effects? I have been thinking about adding a estriol creme myself (https://www.iherb.com/pr/Life-Flo-Health-Estriol-Care-2-fl-oz-57-g/16469).

Any thoughts?
 
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Jonny Craig

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Btw @whatevr. Was it still working for you by the time you stopped? Read over the entire thread in the last days but it is not clear to me if you quit because of the sides or also because it was no longer working for you...


Also, I saw that you have used bi-estro too. How was this working for you, regarding efficacy and side effects? I have been thinking about adding a estriol creme myself (https://www.iherb.com/pr/Life-Flo-Health-Estriol-Care-2-fl-oz-57-g/16469).

Any thoughts?

Have you added any estro cream? I bought biestro but did not start yet..
 

Manochoice

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Man, it seems like the majority of regimens that have good results somehow lead to either dick problems, shitty gyno, low libido etc. That's so fucked up!
 

bridgeburn

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Man, it seems like the majority of regimens that have good results somehow lead to either dick problems, shitty gyno, low libido etc. That's so fucked up!
well, it is called MALE pattern baldness
 

Manochoice

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which is also caused by DHT
To my understanding, FPHL is even less understood than the MPHL. Anyway... while I utterly despise hair loss I can't understand how so many men would trade other body features for hair. I understand taking a risk but when I read about people who would gladly sport tits and limp their dicks for hair... it makes me wonder...
 

bridgeburn

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To my understanding, FPHL is even less understood than the MPHL.
Its caused by the same thing. except usually women have higher levels of aromatase in the temporal regions than men, thats why if they do get hairloss its more commonly overall top of head diffusion than typical male pattern.

while I utterly despise hair loss I can't understand how so many men would trade other body features for hair. I understand taking a risk but when I read about people who would gladly sport tits and limp their dicks for hair... it makes me wonder...
Its a matter of priorities. different strokes for different folks. my dick works totally fine despite having crashed T but maybe I'm just very lucky / unusual. In fact, I had sex this morning
 

Manochoice

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That is good man. It absolutely comes down to what each one is ready to give up (or add on). I remember from some of your older posts (I may be wrong) that you encountered some feminization sides? I just saw some man tits caused by meds and was rather an odd sight...
 
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