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Might have to get on TRT or remain on HRT just to feel good. As you've mentioned before, you need a dominant sex hormone. Taking estrogen for a year (or CPA) and then trying to get off of them would likely make you depend on some exogenous form of T or E in order to maintain that dominance.
 
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Due to the risk of liver toxicity with bicalutamide, liver monitoring should be done regularly during bicalutamide therapy. If liver enzymes are sufficiently elevated, bicalutamide should be promptly discontinued (or possibly dosage reduced). Since most cases seem to occur early into treatment (within the first 6 months), this may be the most important time for liver monitoring.

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What 9 months hrt does to a motherfucker. Ever since switching to injections and adding duta my progress has been super fast, I now have vellus hairs all the way to NW0 (round hairline) so just waiting for them to mature :) Hopefully there by the end of the year. Amazing skin difference aswell


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How old are you? I guess bica and dutasteride work pretty good together
 
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Norwoody said:
Might have to get on TRT or remain on HRT just to feel good. As you've mentioned before, you need a dominant sex hormone. Taking estrogen for a year (or CPA) and then trying to get off of them would likely make you depend on some exogenous form of T or E in order to maintain that dominance.
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My theory is if you suppress T in a male using E or CPA, then get off, the T will shoot back with a vengeance. It's the opposite of a body builder taking T, it makes the endocrine system lazy and shuts down normal T production. Then it maybe never come back, which means TRT for the rest of your life.

Another note, in my 4 month cycle I taper down the AA's in the last month bringing the T back and my hair quality feels and looks good. My theory is T is good for a short time but not a long time. And think the surge back in T brings with it growth hormone which plays a part in boosting hair. I would post a pic of one FtM transition, but can't post a photo for some reason.

Also consider how a teenagers hair gets thicker and fuller going through puberty, when the male hormones kick in.
 
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Also consider how a teenagers hair gets thicker and fuller going through puberty, when the male hormones kick in.
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They are not sensitive to T and DHT, but they are sensitive to E, which is produced due to the conversion of T to E

Bicalutamide does a similar job: it turns off androgen receptors, but increases E.This, in a sense, brings you back to adolescence.
Bicalutamide is an ideal medicine, but the E it gives is not enough to restore the follicles. It is necessary to restore with high dosages of E, and then maintain the result with Bicalutamide. I plan on getting my hair back in my teenage time 14-15 years old, that's my goal
 
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I have before and after photos, I’ll inbox you when I get time. You decide if I’m getting there. Next cycle my focus will be on progesterone and bica- I have a good feeling about it
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What is the theory behind this combination? From my short experience just with progesterone solo for improving sleep 10 mg/day work better that 50 mg/day. Increased dosage gives me more "agression" and it's hard to fall asleep.
 
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Almas said:
They are not sensitive to T and DHT, but they are sensitive to E, which is produced due to the conversion of T to E

Bicalutamide does a similar job: it turns off androgen receptors, but increases E.This, in a sense, brings you back to adolescence.
Bicalutamide is an ideal medicine, but the E it gives is not enough to restore the follicles. It is necessary to restore with high dosages of E, and then maintain the result with Bicalutamide. I plan on getting my hair back in my teenage time 14-15 years old, that's my goal
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Obviously you combine it with finasteride. What are your thoughts on dutasteride? I know that some say it is risky. But it would also increase aromatization slightly. What about bica + topical E?
 
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What are your thoughts on dutasteride?
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I don't know how it interacts with Bicalutamide, I just read some rumors. I remember that Ikarus said that the concentration of Dutasteride will increase when used with Bica
From myself, I can say that it is not worth it purely economically. Avodart is expensive, but not worth the money. Bicalutamide does most of the work, so finasteride will suffice. Better save money

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I don't believe this works. People on this forum thought that E had a topical effect and began to smear the gel on the scalp, although this has not been confirmed. For me, this is some kind of nonsense.
 
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I'm basically at the 3 month mark with my stack of bi-estro, topical dutasteride, derma roller & hls peptides. So far it's looking likely that it's had a very negative effect on my hair, the only positives are my scalp itch has disappeared and my skin is a lot softer.
Nipples still sore and slight gyno but nothing noticeable (I have some Rolax arriving soon so hopefully it will sort that out).
Although I am enjoying looking a little younger I now have to buzz my hair to 1-2mm just to be presentable in my professional career as the shedding phase hasn't really stopped. I am going to push on to the 4 month mark but at the moment I wouldn't recommend this form of topical treatment to anybody.
 
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I don't know how it interacts with Bicalutamide, I just read some rumors. I remember that Ikarus said that the concentration of Dutasteride will increase when used with Bica
From myself, I can say that it is not worth it purely economically. Avodart is expensive, but not worth the money. Bicalutamide does most of the work, so finasteride will suffice. Better save money


I don't believe this works. People on this forum thought that E had a topical effect and began to smear the gel on the scalp, although this has not been confirmed. For me, this is some kind of nonsense.
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The increased concentration of Dutasteride in the blood is a result of halted procession in the liver of the drug due to Bicalutamide. That's what I read the last time, but will need to do research on WHY it is so.
 
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The increased concentration of Dutasteride in the blood is a result of halted procession in the liver of the drug due to Bicalutamide. That's what I read the last time, but will need to do research on WHY it is so.
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I wonder if this would help decrease scalp DHT even more
 
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Murkey Thumb said:
I'm basically at the 3 month mark with my stack of bi-estro, topical dutasteride, derma roller & hls peptides. So far it's looking likely that it's had a very negative effect on my hair, the only positives are my scalp itch has disappeared and my skin is a lot softer.
Nipples still sore and slight gyno but nothing noticeable (I have some Rolax arriving soon so hopefully it will sort that out).
Although I am enjoying looking a little younger I now have to buzz my hair to 1-2mm just to be presentable in my professional career as the shedding phase hasn't really stopped. I am going to push on to the 4 month mark but at the moment I wouldn't recommend this form of topical treatment to anybody.
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"Zounds, that sounds bleak. Can you have testing done?
 
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Junely said:
What 9 months hrt does to a motherfucker. Ever since switching to injections and adding duta my progress has been super fast, I now have vellus hairs all the way to NW0 (round hairline) so just waiting for them to mature :) Hopefully there by the end of the year. Amazing skin difference aswell


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It looks as though you had dermatitis or a rash in the sideburns before which has cleared up. You nose might look more feminine too but I am looking for things that might not be there. Could just be the lighting. Really happy for you.
 
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