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How is this different from what you are doing? I just chose a cheaper and more convenient option. But we'd both be on HRT, man
I have no ulterior motives. I am afraid of body changes. I'm just a very desperate guy who decided to go for it so as not to kill myself. nw0 or die
How much are u spending monthly?
 

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How much are u spending monthly?
No more than $ 6. It is very cheap and very effective. That is why I chose injections instead of pills, which cost me tens of times more. I injected and now I don't have to do anything for 2 weeks. This is convenient and the tablets must be sucked every day. The only downside to injections is that it's a little difficult if you don't have good needles. And also the second injection was painful. But this is due to the fact that I have little experience, next time I will not make mistakes.
 

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How is this different from what you are doing? I just chose a cheaper and more convenient option. But we'd both be on HRT, man
I have no ulterior motives. I am afraid of body changes. I'm just a very desperate guy who decided to go for it so as not to kill myself. nw0 or die
I guess the difference is that i'm not trying to avoid looking more feminine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I guess the difference is that i'm not trying to avoid looking more feminine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I do not want to change the body and breast growth, but I do not try to resist it, at least because it is impossible. I just want hair. This is for hair only, dudes.
 

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It's up to you the reason why do it. People just point out this cuz it might help you come to terms with feeling comfortable in your own skin and do what you do.

I myself believe won't bring up this topic anymore, I don't want to be annoying and you've already given your answer.


I do not want to change the body and breast growth, but I do not try to resist it, at least because it is impossible. I just want hair. This is for hair only, dudes.
I still don't have the answers as to what would happen if I do cycles of estrogen and then test. I need to research more but I need money first so it's pointless.
 

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It's up to you the reason why do it. People just point out this cuz it might help you come to terms with feeling comfortable in your own skin and do what you do.

I myself believe won't bring up this topic anymore, I don't want to be annoying and you've already given your answer.



I still don't have the answers as to what would happen if I do cycles of estrogen and then test. I need to research more but I need money first so it's pointless.
Check out itsnoah story if you haven't already. This is the only example I know
 

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In addition to the fact that hair regrowth on HRT is faster than baldness, I found that FTMs usually go bald after a year on testosterone.
These facts give hope that the idea of estrogen cycles is feasible.
But as always, only theory. In theory, Bicalutamide is the perfect medicine, but we know how Jacob Williams' story and mine ended
 

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In addition to the fact that hair regrowth on HRT is faster than baldness, I found that FTMs usually go bald after a year on testosterone.
These facts give hope that the idea of estrogen cycles is feasible.
But as always, only theory. In theory, Bicalutamide is the perfect medicine, but we know how Jacob Williams' story and mine ended
Thanks for your comments
 

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As I've mentioned before, testosterone is still highly androgenic, though of course DHT is the androgenic kingpin. Over the years, anabolic steroids were developed to have less androgenic components and more anabolic components because the very first steroids were causing terrible side effects in athletes - prostates were blowing up like balloons after a few short years on the drugs, women who took them were becoming infertile, etc. The big breakthroughs were with dianabol and anavar, designed to be much less androgenic than testosterone. So Almas' point about testosterone is not to be taken lightly. Guys who are on TRT are definitely at risk of losing a lot of hair. Derek the MPMD guy lost a lot of hair while he was just doing testosterone and dutasteride. He improved his hair after backing off the testosterone, and he also takes finasteride now instead of dutasteride. Additionally, there is an anecdote on the forums of a guy who improved his hair while taking anavar. Bottom line is that testosterone is still plenty androgenic, especially if you have sensitive follicles. And any FtMs, or guys who take steroids, would be better off doing low-dose anabolic steroids and avoiding testosterone altogether if possible.
 

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As I've mentioned before, testosterone is still highly androgenic, though of course DHT is the androgenic kingpin. Over the years, anabolic steroids were developed to have less androgenic components and more anabolic components because the very first steroids were causing terrible side effects in athletes - prostates were blowing up like balloons after a few short years on the drugs, women who took them were becoming infertile, etc. The big breakthroughs were with dianabol and anavar, designed to be much less androgenic than testosterone. So Almas' point about testosterone is not to be taken lightly. Guys who are on TRT are definitely at risk of losing a lot of hair. Derek the MPMD guy lost a lot of hair while he was just doing testosterone and dutasteride. He improved his hair after backing off the testosterone, and he also takes finasteride now instead of dutasteride. Additionally, there is an anecdote on the forums of a guy who improved his hair while taking anavar. Bottom line is that testosterone is still plenty androgenic, especially if you have sensitive follicles. And any FtMs, or guys who take steroids, would be better off doing low-dose anabolic steroids and avoiding testosterone altogether if possible.
There's one user saying that T doesnt cause hairloss which I don't know since I haven't checked studies. but if dutasteride blocks only around 60% DHT of your scalp then the other 40% could be magnified if you're taking Test, even surpassing your original levels of DHT...
 

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I was thinking about using HRT and anabolic steroids in order to be able to maintain my body in a masculine state. For example, nandrolone has a much stronger effect on muscles than testosterone, while it does not affect skin and hair. Sounds perfect, doesn't it? Therefore, women who are involved in bodybuilding build muscle, but do not go bald. There are also various SARMs that bodybuilders use. I am trying to get my head around this topic
I am trying to understand how all of these drugs affect estradiol levels.
But I think they have serious side effects, and it's best not to mess with it. Moreover, I like to be thin
 
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I was thinking about using HRT and anabolic steroids in order to be able to maintain my body in a masculine state. For example, nandrolone has a much stronger effect on muscles than testosterone, while it does not affect skin and hair. Sounds perfect, doesn't it? Therefore, women who are involved in bodybuilding build muscle, but do not go bald. There are also various SARMs that bodybuilders use. I am trying to get my head around this topic
I am trying to understand how all of these drugs affect estradiol levels.
But I think they have serious side effects, and it's best not to mess with it. Moreover, I like to be thin
Yh that sounds like what I want to do.

I believe that if pegasus is right and T doesn't cause hairloss, and I manage to block over 90% test in my scalp, then I could be "safe" using certain steroids.


According to my research the ones that we can use currently are Anavar and "Tdbol". Be careful there are certain steroids that at first instance are hair and skin safe, but I'
if you are using any 5AR inhibitor then they become massively detrimental for both, like nandrolone (deca).


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Has anyone lowered their scalp DHT above 90% is that possible? Need to.make a thread about. @Almas ngl we areon the same page apparently
 

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Has anyone lowered their scalp DHT above 90% is that possible?
This is possible with HRT. Dutasteride does not reduce DHT in the scalp sufficiently. Bicalutamide, in theory, should prevent DHT from binding to receptors at an adequate dosage, but it did not help me
 

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Bicalutamide is effective in only 53% of cases of female pattern baldness. Unsurprisingly, at least half of those who tried it didn't help.
HRT may not help either, because even on HRT there will be low levels of T and DHT, and if you did not respond to Bicalutamide, you will simply continue to go bald even at the female hormonal level. Nothing can be done about it. If I have not answered Bicalutamide and am balding on the back of my head, it is quite possible that HRT will not give me anything We cannot completely get rid of androgens, and blocking the receptors does not always work. Thus, we do not have a medicine that is guaranteed to help
Spironolactone and CPA are even less effective than Bicalutamide, so the percentages are even lower in their case. Add to this the fact that Androgenetic Alopecia has more than just androgenic mechanisms. In general, we will never defeat this disease
 
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Bicalutamide is effective in only 53% of cases of female pattern baldness. Unsurprisingly, at least half of those who tried it didn't help.
HRT may not help either, because even on HRT there will be low levels of T and DHT, and if you did not respond to Bicalutamide, you will simply continue to go bald even at the female hormonal level. Nothing can be done about it. If I have not answered Bicalutamide and am balding on the back of my head, it is quite possible that HRT will not give me anything We cannot completely get rid of androgens, and blocking the receptors does not always work. Thus, we do not have a medicine that is guaranteed to help
Spironolactone and CPA are even less effective than Bicalutamide, so the percentages are even lower in their case. Add to this the fact that Androgenetic Alopecia has more than just androgenic mechanisms. In general, we will never defeat this disease
I think those that are unresponsive to extensive androgenic alopecia treatments likely have a different mechanism of hairloss than androgens.
 

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I think those that are unresponsive to extensive androgenic alopecia treatments likely have a different mechanism of hairloss than androgens.
Androgenetic Alopecia has different mechanisms, but it would be better if they were only androgens: the rest of the mechanisms are unknown to us. Apparently if the genetics are too bad and you are programmed to go bald no matter what, this is a sentence
 

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@Almas what would happen if somebody injects strogen in their scalp and then takes aromatasa inhibitor. Like what if the majority of strogen your body is getting is through those scalp injections? Is it possible to avoid unwanted side effects this way?

I need to research and make a thread to ask these questions if there's anybody who bothers to say anything it's gonna be appreciated.
 
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