Can High Level Of Tsh Speed Up Hair Loss ?

[arnoldd]

I was having really good results with the big 3 in terms of regrowth, but after the 10th month(october) on traetament i started to worsening.
in october i check up my tyroid and it was high (tsh 4,19 , the maximum range is 4,20)..t4 and t3 were normal
i started to regret 2/3 months later..
can this high level speed up my male pattern baldness ?

 

[cyrusthegreat@hotmail.com]

It's possible, ya. I think @Pavi might have some information on this. If i recall correctly, his hair loss was due 8n part to under acrive thyroid.

 

[Pavi]

Hypothyroidism could absolutely 100% speed it up. I lost half my hair in a year because of hypothyroidism. It was diffusing all over my head. Thyroid hormones help growth hormone work, which helps ur hair grow. Low thyroid also slows down DNA replication and it slows down your basal metabolic rate, making you gain weight and fatigued all the time. Thankfully with medication it's growing back. I'm still a Norwood 2 though

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Hypothyroidism could absolutely 100% speed it up. I lost half my hair in a year because of hypothyroidism. It was diffusing all over my head. Thyroid hormones help growth hormone work, which helps ur hair grow. Low thyroid also slows down DNA replication and it slows down your basal metabolic rate, making you gain weight and fatigued all the time. Thankfully with medication it's growing back. I'm still a Norwood 2 though

You lucky man!! lol. NW2 is the perfect hairline in my eyes. Hope my treatments get me back to that im like NW2.5 and on and the big 3 but ive replaced regaine with dermarolling and topical spironolactone, so technically my personal big 4 haha

 

[Pavi]

You lucky man!! lol. NW2 is the perfect hairline in my eyes. Hope my treatments get me back to that im like NW2.5 and on and the big 3 but ive replaced regaine with dermarolling and topical spironolactone, so technically my personal big 4 haha

I still have a little diffusion so it still sucks

 

[sunchyme1]

Hypothyroidism could absolutely 100% speed it up. I lost half my hair in a year because of hypothyroidism. It was diffusing all over my head. Thyroid hormones help growth hormone work, which helps ur hair grow. Low thyroid also slows down DNA replication and it slows down your basal metabolic rate, making you gain weight and fatigued all the time. Thankfully with medication it's growing back. I'm still a Norwood 2 though

i wonder if my hair loss is being sped up because of thyroid problems

my last blood test about a year ago my tsh came back 3.89 (0.27 - 4.20).

at the time they said everything was normal, in range etc. but i read something recently saying how really once you go past 3 you have a problem.

do you think this could have accelerated my hairloss?

i remember a few years ago when i was first treating my hairloss i was speaking to my local Doctor about possible thryoid problems. he said my bloods were normal back then too, and also i had normal hair loss pattern (receding hairline and crown), so its was just normal male pattern baldness. if it was a thyroid problem my hair would be diffusing all over.

was this bullshit?

im pretty sure my hairloss comes from my mums side. (dad side has good hair). my mums dad has the same pattern of loss as me but im much more aggressive. all of my close male relatives have good hair. im far more aggressive than any of them. i only accepted my hairloss because i just presumed my hair loss gene came from somelse else in my mums family, like her dads brother or father etc

but it is possible my hairloss has been so aggressive because of my thyroid? i have no free or t4 numbers, just tsh

to give some back ground info, i noticed density thinning when i was 18, then gradual loss at hairline and crown for the next 10 years. im 29 now and around nw4/5. i took finasteride a couple years ago with good success, got my back to nw2/3. but quit due to bad sides. i also responded well to minoxidil.

 

[arnoldd]

It depends if you have male pattern baldness or not.

Both hypo and hyper speed up baldness because it seems speed up the conversation to dht.

So if you have male pattern baldness the tyroid desease will speed up your baldness.

If you are not prone to male pattern baldness you will lose hairs too, but when your thyroid level come back normal with medication hairs will grow back.

Now, when you have hypotiroisdm problem your tsh is high more than 4.20, and your t4 or t3 should be low.

If you have only high tsh it coulb be an early stage of hypo or maybe not.
Mine in october was 4.19 with normal t3 and t4. I check up again in january and it was 1.48.

Now the question is if a high tsh with normal t3 and t4 can affect our baldness.
This was my question,
Next week i will consult an endocrinologist about this.

 

[sunchyme1]

It depends if you have male pattern baldness or not.

Both hypo and hyper speed up baldness because it seems speed up the conversation to dht.

So if you have male pattern baldness the tyroid desease will speed up your baldness.

If you are not prone to male pattern baldness you will lose hairs too, but when your thyroid level come back normal with medication hairs will grow back.

Now, when you have hypotiroisdm problem your tsh is high more than 4.20, and your t4 or t3 should be low.

If you have only high tsh it coulb be an early stage of hypo or maybe not.
Mine in october was 4.19 with normal t3 and t4. I check up again in january and it was 1.48.

Now the question is if a high tsh with normal t3 and t4 can affect our baldness.
This was my question,
Next week i will consult an endocrinologist about this.

im pretty sure i have male pattern baldness. receding hairline and thinning crown pattern.

so im fucked then? meds wont regrow my hair? could it stop it tho, or slow it down?

 

[arnoldd]

check up your tyroid, tsh t3 t4.

your tyroid level you said was 3.89, it's a little high but in the range.
probably you don't have any problem, but check it for reassurance..

 

[sunchyme1]

check up your tyroid, tsh t3 t4.

your tyroid level you said was 3.89, it's a little high but in the range.
probably you don't have any problem, but check it for reassurance..

f***, i was hoping i did have a problem. so i could get my f*****g hair back

3.89 is much higher on average though isnt it. is there any chance by reducing it i could slow my hair loss down?

f*****g doctors here in uk are tight asses. i already asked to do a repeat test a few months ago but they said no because my last tests came back fine. id have to go privately. unless i just see another doctor and make some bullshit up about being tired and stuff. which is true

 

[arnoldd]

Mmm no you didnt understand..

If you are not prone to male pattern baldness and have tyroid problem, you have chance to grow back hairs.

But you are prone to male pattern baldness so a tyroid desease would speed up even more your baldness.

Your tsh is high but in the range.. i dont know if a high tsh could trigger in more hair loss.. this was my question.

 

[Pavi]

Mmm no you didnt understand..

If you are not prone to male pattern baldness and have tyroid problem, you have chance to grow back hairs.

But you are prone to male pattern baldness so a tyroid desease would speed up even more your baldness.

Your tsh is high but in the range.. i dont know if a high tsh could trigger in more hair loss.. this was my question.

Not necessarily. It's not like if you're prone to male pattern baldness and you get on thyroid medicine the hair won't grow back. It certainly can grow back whether you're prone to male pattern baldness or not

 

[Pavi]

Mmm no you didnt understand..

If you are not prone to male pattern baldness and have tyroid problem, you have chance to grow back hairs.

But you are prone to male pattern baldness so a tyroid desease would speed up even more your baldness.

Your tsh is high but in the range.. i dont know if a high tsh could trigger in more hair loss.. this was my question.

This is further incorrect becuase thyroid hairloss is not androgen mediated, if it were androgen mediated drugs like minoxidil and finasteride would help... they don't. Thyroid hairloss is due to lack of T3 which causes lack of cellular division and thus hair growth. Also, low thyroid hormone DECREASES testosterone and I have found no evidence of increased 5 AR with hypothyroidism

 

[arnoldd]

Mmm no pavi you are incorrect.

Both conditions ( hypo and hyper ) speed up a lot the baldness..the body cpnvert more dht.

There are studyes claiming that..

Its true that hypo make your metabolism slow and this cause hair loss. But when you recover to the normal levels these hairs grow back.
I

 

[Pavi]

Mmm no pavi you are incorrect.

Both conditions ( hypo and hyper ) speed up a lot the baldness..the body cpnvert more dht.

There are studyes claiming that..

Its true that hypo make your metabolism slow and this cause hair loss. But when you recover to the normal levels these hairs grow back.
I

Provide me a link to these studies and you literally just agreed with me lol your original claim was that people with male pattern baldness and thyroid disease can't regrow their hair once the thyroid hormones are normalized, that is wrong. I'm not aware of any studies saying that hypothyroidism increases 5 AR or speeds up the conversion of T to DHT. If anything, hypothyroidism would decrease the conversion and hyperthyroidism would increase it

 

[sunchyme1]

Provide me a link to these studies and you literally just agreed with me lol your original claim was that people with male pattern baldness and thyroid disease can't regrow their hair once the thyroid hormones are normalized, that is wrong. I'm not aware of any studies saying that hypothyroidism increases 5 AR or speeds up the conversion of T to DHT. If anything, hypothyroidism would decrease the conversion and hyperthyroidism would increase it

do you know a lot about this stuff pavi? what do you think my situation is?

 

[Pavi]

do you know a lot about this stuff pavi? what do you think my situation is?

My TSH was also considered to be normal but I was experiencing all the signs of thyroid distinction. I finally got a doctor who listened and he gave me thyroid medicine. I feel much better

 

[sunchyme1]

My TSH was also considered to be normal but I was experiencing all the signs of thyroid distinction. I finally got a doctor who listened and he gave me thyroid medicine. I feel much better

and your hair is coming back?

my doctor ruled out thyroid isues age ago because my test were 'normal', plus my hairloss is typical male pattern baldness pattern (receding hairline and crown) so he said it was just normal hairloss. i took finasteride and min and repsonded great to both drugs and regrew a lot of hair. but i had bad sides on finasteride so i quit and the hair got thin again

is it possible that whilst i do have normal male pattern baldness, thyroid issues could have sped the process up? i have the most aggressive hairloss in all my immediate family

 

[Pavi]

and your hair is coming back?

my doctor ruled out thyroid isues age ago because my test were 'normal', plus my hairloss is typical male pattern baldness pattern (receding hairline and crown) so he said it was just normal hairloss. i took finasteride and min and repsonded great to both drugs and regrew a lot of hair. but i had bad sides on finasteride so i quit and the hair got thin again

is it possible that whilst i do have normal male pattern baldness, thyroid issues could have sped the process up? i have the most aggressive hairloss in all my immediate family

I have both too and I don't think it necessarily speeds it up, it just causes hair loss for a separate reason. Once the reason (low thyroid) is addressed it will come back. Yes I regrew hair on my thyroid medicine but I still have male pattern baldness

 

[sunchyme1]

I have both too and I don't think it necessarily speeds it up, it just causes hair loss for a separate reason. Once the reason (low thyroid) is addressed it will come back. Yes I regrew hair on my thyroid medicine but I still have male pattern baldness

as much as id loved to get pumped about this i wont. but im def gonna look into this. it would be f*****g AMAZING if i could regrow my hair or at least slow it down to what it should be normally. if this is the case.

what should i do now, get further tests, see a specialist? local doctors are generally useless and dissmissive here in the uk