HairForceOne
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Almost 8 weeks. I needle with Derminator 1,5mm.
Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
Almost 8 weeks. I needle with Derminator 1,5mm.
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HairForceOne
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@HairForceOne have you ever consider a trasplant, since your situation haven't changed in all those years?
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So you combined shampoo with Creme in parallel? Could you please let me know how long you left the shampoo on you hair before washing it out.
How often did you apply the cream, did you just apply it in your temples? You just leave this on your skin right and you dont remove it?
Hope the questions are not too silly
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So, people, I'm back to share my experience. I've been dermarolling from End of August 2018 + minoxidil. I also added dutasteride instead of finasteride.
My hair loss is worse than ever. Middle of the scalp is literally bald. My hairline is shittier week by week.
I've been doing 'Somebody's method', dermarolling with 1.5mg every day. Insane inflammation on the scalp, it literally hurts if I touch it.
I will try 1.5mg Dr. Pen once a week and drop dermarolling every day. I'm afraid of another shed.
Don't know what to do to be honest. Probably will try to add some RU on CB in the mix and oral minoxidil. I don't know.
Keep rolling.
My hair loss is worse than ever. Middle of the scalp is literally bald. My hairline is shittier week by week.
I've been doing 'Somebody's method', dermarolling with 1.5mg every day. Insane inflammation on the scalp, it literally hurts if I touch it.
I will try 1.5mg Dr. Pen once a week and drop dermarolling every day. I'm afraid of another shed.
Don't know what to do to be honest. Probably will try to add some RU on CB in the mix and oral minoxidil. I don't know.
Keep rolling.
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@itsjustsimon - 1.5mm daily sounds a bit much to me. Listen to your body. The scalp needs to heal with that depth in my opinion.
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What is your sterilization process like?
I use a new cartridge every time and i shower then drench my head in alcohol before beginning
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i use this for sterilization. Not sure if ok
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HairForceOne
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@Spanishboy97 Yes I have. I almost pulled a trigger for hair transplant two years ago but cancelled procedure. I might do it this year though, I am still doing my research. I am bit worried about my donor which might not be strong enough for long term plan if I choose to go for hair transplant route.
@ComeBackTemples I shampoo with Nizoral typically once a week. I tend to keep it on my head for at least 5 minutes if not longer. It depends on how inflammated my scalp feels. I use nizoral cream every time I feel even a bit of DHT itch or inflammation - usually in my mid-scalp and hairline where I also apply cream. I just let it absorb and do not wash it away at all.
I trialled nizoral cream 5 months ago and applied it every other day for two months. At least it reduced inflammation substantially and made my hair look quite dark and healthy. I probably need to hop on same cycle again if I could pull off same results again.
@ComeBackTemples I shampoo with Nizoral typically once a week. I tend to keep it on my head for at least 5 minutes if not longer. It depends on how inflammated my scalp feels. I use nizoral cream every time I feel even a bit of DHT itch or inflammation - usually in my mid-scalp and hairline where I also apply cream. I just let it absorb and do not wash it away at all.
I trialled nizoral cream 5 months ago and applied it every other day for two months. At least it reduced inflammation substantially and made my hair look quite dark and healthy. I probably need to hop on same cycle again if I could pull off same results again.
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I just wanted to share this article maybe it can shed some light:
Why dermaneedling/dermarolling can not cause skin cancer
In order for cancer to occur, a DNA strand need to be fully severed, which is referred to as a double-strand break. Single-strand breaks can be easily and quickly repaired by the body. Double strand breaks can occur as an effect of ionizing radiation, aggressive chemicals, viral infection or even mechanical cutting action, as is the case with asbestos fibres smaller than 1m, because that is a size small enough to be able to penetrate a chromosome. In addition to their small diameter, asbestos fibres, due to their crystalline nature, are perfect knives in the sense that their cutting edge is perfectly sharp and straight on the molecular level, and thus able to cut DNA like a razor blade cuts a strawberry.
It would stand to reason to assume that needles would similarly be able to cause cancer, but fortunately that is not the case, otherwise tattoo artists would have gone out of business a long time ago due to class action lawsuits, legislation and insurance companies refusing to insure them, and people would warn against getting tattoos because everyone would know that they would increase the risk of skin cancer, which they don't.
The reason needles can't cause DNA damage is because even the sharpest needle tips are so big, compared to our chromosomes, that it would be like trying to cut a strawberry with the blunt end of a broken banana. This is the point of a needle in comparison to a red blood cell:
Chromosomes are about the same size as red blood cells. It's clear to anyone with a grasp of basic physics that it is impossible for a needle to even make a dent in a chromosome, let alone break the molecular bonds in its very much smaller DNA strands. The tip of the needle would simply push the chromosome out of its way, especially on such a microscopic scale, where mass inertia decreases by the third power of the linear size (diameter) of the structures. Cutting a DNA strand with a needle tip would be literally as hard as cutting a steel cable with a piece of styrofoam the size of the Empire State Building. It is a physical impossibility - the laws of physics prevent it.
It is theoretically possible though that there is a greater chance that the UV from the sun causes cancer in freshly needled skin, because it can be imagined that the UV can easier reach "open" skin. That is why the skin has to be protected against the sun, a couple of days after dermaneedling. But the needling itself can do no harm.
Why dermaneedling/dermarolling can not cause skin cancer
In order for cancer to occur, a DNA strand need to be fully severed, which is referred to as a double-strand break. Single-strand breaks can be easily and quickly repaired by the body. Double strand breaks can occur as an effect of ionizing radiation, aggressive chemicals, viral infection or even mechanical cutting action, as is the case with asbestos fibres smaller than 1m, because that is a size small enough to be able to penetrate a chromosome. In addition to their small diameter, asbestos fibres, due to their crystalline nature, are perfect knives in the sense that their cutting edge is perfectly sharp and straight on the molecular level, and thus able to cut DNA like a razor blade cuts a strawberry.
It would stand to reason to assume that needles would similarly be able to cause cancer, but fortunately that is not the case, otherwise tattoo artists would have gone out of business a long time ago due to class action lawsuits, legislation and insurance companies refusing to insure them, and people would warn against getting tattoos because everyone would know that they would increase the risk of skin cancer, which they don't.
The reason needles can't cause DNA damage is because even the sharpest needle tips are so big, compared to our chromosomes, that it would be like trying to cut a strawberry with the blunt end of a broken banana. This is the point of a needle in comparison to a red blood cell:
Chromosomes are about the same size as red blood cells. It's clear to anyone with a grasp of basic physics that it is impossible for a needle to even make a dent in a chromosome, let alone break the molecular bonds in its very much smaller DNA strands. The tip of the needle would simply push the chromosome out of its way, especially on such a microscopic scale, where mass inertia decreases by the third power of the linear size (diameter) of the structures. Cutting a DNA strand with a needle tip would be literally as hard as cutting a steel cable with a piece of styrofoam the size of the Empire State Building. It is a physical impossibility - the laws of physics prevent it.
It is theoretically possible though that there is a greater chance that the UV from the sun causes cancer in freshly needled skin, because it can be imagined that the UV can easier reach "open" skin. That is why the skin has to be protected against the sun, a couple of days after dermaneedling. But the needling itself can do no harm.
I've been on Min for 10 years added in needling at start of this thread.
Sounds like you need to get to the Dermatologist and get some cortisone cream. It sounds like once you get that under control you can treat your hairloss. But Alex Somebody said that he had the same issue. Get inflammation under control
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Hey man.
There's no definitive answer to that. Some people will tell you a pen is less painful. Others will tell you the opposite. In short; it varies from person to person. So you'd have to try it yourself. That'd be the best option!
Good luck!
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So the infection is to my Eyelids, both to left and right.
MY eye pupils were 100% ok, but it seems my tear duct was blocked and a lare pimple like cyst developed.
So applying Min/Ru/ should be avoided for 3-4 days. I'm scared now to try dermrolling again at home. May go to therapy clinic and get professionals to do it.
I was going to attach my eye infection picture, but is imgur blocked on this site? how about Reddit?
I just had to paste it here, it won't link as an attached link.
http://imgur.com/gallery/jWx2n7W
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@zinny999 Damn, you have styes. Those can be painful. I've had those before many years ago - well before I was on Minoxidil.
Wash/clean your eyelids with Johnson's baby shampoo on a hot cloth. The cause is typically from bacteria ... which Btw can also be from seborrheic dermatitis.
Use hot washcloths as a warm compression multiple times per day until they get better... do it lots! Those bastards can harden and turn into 'chalazion' cysts if left untreated. Ask me how I know! I had to have multiple surgically removed.
My theory is that it was due to a really bad flare up of Seborrheic Dermatitis. I used coconut oil on my face at the time and that was food for the SD fungus, no different than they feed on your sebum oil. Anyways - it really irritated my eyes and I developed styes.
Wash/clean your eyelids with Johnson's baby shampoo on a hot cloth. The cause is typically from bacteria ... which Btw can also be from seborrheic dermatitis.
Use hot washcloths as a warm compression multiple times per day until they get better... do it lots! Those bastards can harden and turn into 'chalazion' cysts if left untreated. Ask me how I know! I had to have multiple surgically removed.
My theory is that it was due to a really bad flare up of Seborrheic Dermatitis. I used coconut oil on my face at the time and that was food for the SD fungus, no different than they feed on your sebum oil. Anyways - it really irritated my eyes and I developed styes.
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You're correct and it is one of the small oil glands within the eyelid (internal hordeolum). Again never had this happen before. Not sure if it was due to Dermarolling, but the coincidence is that this, happened the first time (styes) during the same week as I was rolling.
Rolling had great result, it stop my hair shedding by 50-60%, just not sure is worth the sacrafice for chances to have damn f*****g styes in my eyes.