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Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by ZenHead, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. layabout

    layabout Experienced Member My Regimen

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    it's more apparent from this angle:
    https://i.imgur.com/5leh3Hx.png

    It looks much better now though. Used to be worse. The area is darkening
     
  2. yayapapaya

    yayapapaya Established Member My Regimen

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    It can't maintain.
     
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    Why are you recomending him to drop treatments? Without it he will go bald fast.
     
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    yayapapaya Established Member My Regimen

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    Keep dreaming.
     
  5. layabout

    layabout Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Hair growth is just so slow man. I believe that my Dermapen is doing good and that the minoxidil is helping, but I just wanna tackle it from all fronts, you know. I'm on a mission to get full regrowth, my hair used to be thicker on the sides too. I have not really gotten much sides from finasteride and I only take .5mg
     
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    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    Because fina is poison.
    We have the study + anecdotes of members who told they maintained.

    So no it's not crazy at all. Maybe it didn't work for you, doesn't mean it doens't for anyone else.
     
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    9982 Established Member My Regimen

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    Ray Peat. He made his life's work studying hormones and cortisol. He's a researcher and knows more about the subject than most endocrinologists. He describes the biochemical mechanism as being stress related. Paleo also causes a cortisol increase during ketosis and can cause hairloss.
     
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    9982 Established Member My Regimen

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    May I ask you a question ? If I'm getting blood spots on the hairline with a 0.5mm roller, would you think that it's necessary to go deeper?
    I'm not actually rolling, I just use the roller like a stamp.
    I did order the derminator 2 but I'm thinking it may be too aggressive to go with 1.5 mm when it arrives.
     
  9. sportsguy97

    sportsguy97 Established Member My Regimen

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    I think prolonged fasting done too often can have negative effects like anything else. However IF can be beneficial. I've been doing it for years with no adverse issues. I get the same calories as normal, just within a window. Pretty much just skip breakfast. Again if you scour the internet you'll find people that say IF helped with arthritis or acne and other inflammatory issues. Again not saying it helps, but its about creating a good environment for hair. Whether it helps for hair who knows. If it did i'd doubt we'd hear about it cause no money can be made.
     
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    0.5mm barely pierces the skin, generally people use this daily to increase the absorption of drugs (like minoxidil). It's nowhere near deep enough to trigger a real wound response. 1.5mm is the minimum used in the studies but you would probably benefit from deeper needles still. Like I said in a previous post, I've gone all the way up to 3mm with a roller without problems. I'd recommend 1.75-2mm with the pen and cover as much of your scalp as possible, not just your thinning areas. Rolling on healthy areas allows stem cells to migrate to local miniaturised areas.
    Good luck and this is not for the faint hearted, the best results I have seen were from the most aggressive wounding member here, 2young2retire, and you fuckers banned him and closed the thread hahaa nice work admins.. Also I speculate that bloody photo he uploaded that got him banned all those years ago was made up of half red iodine mixed in with blood, making it look much more dramatic. Why iodine? It acts as a disinfectant plus it has been shown to boost wound healing and induce hair growth in and around scars. Remember he fully reversed his hairloss with a cheap 1.5mm roller, no other drugs, just heavy wounding.
     
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    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    Lol, 2young2retire is back. Check a couple of pages back itt.
     
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    Agreed, IF has solid evidence behind it. I generally skip breakfast and eat within a smaller time window, ensuring I eat the same calories. IF improves insulin resistance and increases testosterone, both beneficial for hair. We are not thriving by sitting on a chair for 12 hours a day eating refined sugars, artificial foods and wanking off to pornhub. I'm not sorry if I offend people and don't care if I get banned here, I speak truth (from whatever knowledge or research I have gathered).
     
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    Just rolled my 5th time and it was way more painful than ever before, even with lidocaine. Is anyone experiencing an increase in pain after several weeks of once-a-week rolling? I may need to take a week off.
     
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    I know man, and that's great, but how many years have people wasted not knowing about a potential side-effect free treatment because that thread was closed and wounding communities were forced to private forums to speak freely. The lack of photo evidence here from veterans is also due to the same actions.
     
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    Francesco17 Established Member My Regimen

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    I had a slight increase in sensitivity at session 2. Possible explanations: less moisture, needles blunting, scalp becoming more sensitive.
     
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    I’m feeling an uptick in pain too! I’m also on my 5th session and i legit almost cried lol. For what it’s worth a couple of weeks back I waited 2 weeks and it didn’t hurt as much as it does when u do it weekly. Perhaps this pain is a sign of increased vascularization and the breakdown of calcified tissue increasing sensitivity? Who knows?? Anyways, I’m gonna take a light painkiller next time and see what if that’s better.
     
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    albert Established Member My Regimen

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    I dis several sessions with dermaroller in the past and it became so painful I had to give up. So this is for sure an issue. It kind of makes sense that after repetitive wounding in the same area in short periods it becomes more sensitive, especially if those periods are so short (e.g. weekly). I’m just hoping Derminator won’t cause the same issue...
     
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    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Anybody else bring a glass of water to drink while rolling? I have started doing that. It should help, I think.
     
  19. Bill_Russo

    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Wow, this thread just keeps getting better and better!
    Thank you very much for your input, man. I'm about to be one of the heavy rollers (2 mm twice a month) without anything other than scalp massages. Your experience is very motivational for me, because you started worse off than I did. @Hairyshowers
    May I ask, how long did it take for you to get to NW4? My hair loss started (at least that's when I noticed it, so it might be more like 7) 6 years ago and now I'm at a NW3 vertex-ish level under certain lightings.
    And by the way, my pen is finally here (yes, got a pen in the end; let's just say there are some very, very kind souls in this forum). I still have to wait a week because of the stupid New Year's Eve mumbo-jumbo, but it's finally here!
    Someone mentioned drinking helped him with his sessions, too; way back in this thread.
     
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    albert Established Member My Regimen

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    May I ask how does it help? Less pain? Better outcome?
     
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    Bill_Russo Experienced Member My Regimen

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    The person I mentioned said it helped him with the pain.
     
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    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    It's refreshing so it helps with the pain. I can also imagine how it's a good thing to drink water because you're wounding and something something circulation
     
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    Nice to see hairyshowers and 2young around here after Saga's collapse
     
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