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so no hope for slick bald nw7?
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Sure, but maybe not for the hairline on a slick bald nw7. Frontotemporal hairs are a different beast
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The price of each injection may be much higher than a transplant right?
No, I doubt it will be more than 2k per injection once it's commercialized. Probably a good bit less.
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Indeed in this case it is more than interesting. Hope you are right and this product will hit the market !
As we're on the subject. LOL @ anyone who thinks they are developing a drug for Androgenetic Alopecia that costs this much and isn't superior to minoxidil and dutasteride which cost pennies. Nobody would pay antibody prices if it wasn't effectively a cure.
Ppl pay 1k$ for prp treatment, that they make from your own blood and which is the biggest snake oil of this industry so imagin how much they would pay for this.
They will pay 10-20k for 6 months treatment.
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how often do you think injections would be needed, biannually?
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but if prp had to go through fda which HMI will have to it would get denied because its f*****g ineffective. the reason why you can scam so much with autologous stem cell therqpeutics is bc they dont need to get approved by any agency bc its just your own unprocessed cells
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So on the macaques it was a 6 month course, injections every two weeks and those results lasted at least 2 years and had barely started to drop back after 4. I imagine the standard would be something like a 6 months every two years?
Having it be an injection is bound to be a pain tho.
You'd have to find a clinic near to do it for you in a safe environment, and hair restoration clinic always pump up the price too.
sh*t, i mean in my country the most extensive non surgical treatment you can usually find is minoxidil 2%, "vitamins mesotherapy" and maybe fina.
Even if it's out in 2024, you can bet your *** it'll be a pain to find.
You'd have to find a clinic near to do it for you in a safe environment, and hair restoration clinic always pump up the price too.
sh*t, i mean in my country the most extensive non surgical treatment you can usually find is minoxidil 2%, "vitamins mesotherapy" and maybe fina.
Even if it's out in 2024, you can bet your *** it'll be a pain to find.
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It's not one injection it was 12
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is hmi supposed to be out in 2024? i need to cope badly rn
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10-20k every 2 years is still pretty steep tbh
It's only an estimation, if i wanted to be pessimistic i'd say some postponing is bound to happen.
And i'll assume you're French, but sorry frérot but if it comes out as some sort of mesotherapy, it'll be a pain to find here, just look at the horrendous state and the lag of modern hair restoration clinics and dermatologists.
SMI-6 hitting the grey market could be a good alternative in the mean time, we should try to push this for big sellers.
Macaques managed to keep their hair for 4 years, they seemed to have lost very little, but then again it's on macaques.
It's possible that humans don't keep them half as long.
And sh*t, if you can buy 2 years drug free, if you're willing to add something to that, you might last long enough for better treatment to eventually come out.
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honestly to me the most likely outcome is that this produces results comparable to what replicel accomplished, some small effect and then they will say yes yes statistically significant and we may develop it further and then you wont hear from it ever again. just the fsct that prolactin is not involved in any of the major pwthways knows to cause regression of hair is a red flag already. although if it sas that obvious surely they would not have bought the rights bc they are biotechnologists and probably know what they are doing
I wouldn't be so sure, prolactin is known to cause hair loss in women by precipitating the follicles in the telogen phase.
Which is how miniaturization might work at the end of the day, a shortening the anagen phase, it wouldn't to be too far fetched to think that it might play a role just from that, not even talking about the other direct role of PRL across various proteins, i believe a scheme was posted by guys on the group buy.
We should keep our expectations in check for that one, but the fact that the treatment had the same result on macaque as finasteride and RU ( At least from numbers alone, i never really found a way to compare as they used some sort of subjective definitions for different areas ) despite acting on another pathway is encouraging on its own.
The 4 years hair might be specifics to the macaques, but that make one man dream.
The funds invested in this apparently expensive treatment is also a good reason to have hope.
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Ouch a couple of million dollars for 10g. We could see Bezos topping a lion mane pretty soon. If we know HMI-115 is the cure, what's the closest to HMI we can get know (for less than one million dollar)?