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My Zix Experience - How B6 And Zinc Have Saved My Hair

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments' started by worm, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. INT

    INT Experienced Member

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    Took a zix break for a few days since I wanted to try hydrocortisone cream. I have tried it yesterday and the day before and man what a bitch to apply if you still have a good amount of hair... However...

    When I was washing+detangling my hair in the shower I found that there were almost no hair shedding... I am used to heaving full shower drains (I have long black hair) and especially when I detangle my hair, a lot of hairs comes out (most them shedding, some of them just broken because of the detangling (very curly hair that tends to get dry). But today I literally had to kneel down to see if there was even any hair in there. There obviously was... but far less than usual.

    Just wanted to share with you guys.
     
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  2. ElTioLaBota

    ElTioLaBota Established Member My Regimen

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    I have the same type of hair as you do, except that mine is brown, not black. Any tio tomake it better looking?
     
  3. Jonnyyy

    Jonnyyy Experienced Member My Regimen

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    How long have you been on it? Is your hairloss aggressive?
     
  4. INT

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    What is it? Zix or hydrocortisone?

    My hairloss should be aggresive. My dad and maternal grandfather were Norwood III at 27 and I am 27 right now and still having a Norwood II. How I did this? Probably mostly due to PFS derailing my natural male pattern baldness progression.
     
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    Jonnyyy Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I wouldn't say Norwood 3 at 27 is aggressive, that's around my norwood at 19, so it's probably up there but definitely not too bad. And how long have you been on Zix.
     
  6. INT

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    Well looking at both my dad and my maternal grandfather I have a clear NW6 destiny waiting for me.
     
  7. worm

    worm Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Cool, glad to hear, please keep us updated. It took me a month om this new formulation to notice an improvement. Do u have lots of shedding at the moment?
     
  8. worm

    worm Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Sorry brother, I've been off line the past few days enjoying the holidays with family. Are you still using minoxidil? I would try zinc or zix in the morning, then use minoxidil in the evening to make sure they are well spaced apart. See how that goes.

    It seems like you respond well to minoxidil but your male pattern baldness is winning the war, so an anti dht solution should do you well. I'd try the zinc in the morning, it may take a month to respond. Make sure you spread them apart by at least 6 hours. You may want to add b6 eventually, but don't jump the gun. I've read about a few who are getting excellent results using both. Peppered throughout this thread I've posted a few posts where people have been getting great results using both.
     
  9. INT

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    - I wash my hair with a sulfate free shampoo
    - Volumizing conditioner
    - While hair is still very wet I rake a little bit of bounce curl light creme gel together with a little bit of shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie
    - Let air dry for 30-50 minutues
    - Add shea moisture root lifting styler and blowdry with diffuser

    I do this process every other day.
     
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    Thank you for the reply bro. So should I try Zix or Zinc ? Or are they the same thing. And do you know a website that’s tells me what I need to purchase to make the formula ?
     
  11. worm

    worm Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I would first try zinc, i posted the formula on the last page.

    This is the brand of zinc i use - it's $5, and will last you 2 years or so.

    https://www.amazon.com/PlusPharma-Z...0089&sr=8-1&keywords=plus pharma zinc sulfate
     
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    my hairloss is pretty aggressive. If people are getting good results with Zix topically & minoxidil. I would rather try that. Can you take both Zix and Zinc? Or is is best to just do one ?
     
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    sorry I’m new to this. But is the Zinc a topical or a pill.
     
  14. ZenHead

    ZenHead Established Member My Regimen

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    It’s a pill but you dissolve it in water and ethanol. It’s zinc sulfate. Read worm’s formula everything you need to know is there.
     
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    HairCook Established Member My Regimen

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3207614
    "The effects of zinc sulphate and azelaic acid on 5 alpha-reductase activity in human skin were studied using an in vitro assay with 1,2[3H]-testosterone as substrate. When added at concentrations of 3 or 9 mmol/l, zinc was a potent inhibitor of 5 alpha-reductase activity. At high concentrations, zinc could completely inhibit the enzyme activity. Azelaic acid was also a potent inhibitor of 5 alpha-reductase; inhibition was detectable at concentrations as low as 0.2 mmol/l and was complete at 3 mmol/l. An additive effect of the two inhibitors was observed. Vitamin B6 potentiated the inhibitory effect of zinc, but not of azelaic acid, suggesting that two different mechanisms are involved. When the three substances were added together at very low concentrations which had been shown to be ineffective alone, 90% inhibition of 5 alpha-reductase activity was obtained. If this inhibition is confirmed in vivo, zinc sulphate combined with azelaic acid could be an effective agent in the treatment of androgen related pathology of human skin."


    Fascinating. Did I overlook it or did no one actually post this?
     
  16. jamesbooker1975

    jamesbooker1975 Established Member My Regimen

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    That study is from 1988 . Lameless, not a single university made a study in vivo about this, shameless . But, it was tested in many forum users, it was very popular back in 1997 on hairsite . Do a search and you will find a very popular post about it.
     
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    ethyl alcohol ??%
     
  18. Pigeon

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    Can't you just take Zinc orally?
     
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    Bro can you please post the link to your formula again. And exactly how to make It. I’m desperate to get started. I really neeed your help
     
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