My Zix Experience - How B6 And Zinc Have Saved My Hair

Xenophon

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https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/492035

"In a double-blinded, cross-over study, researchers systematically evaluated oral zinc sulfate (5 mg/kg/day) for the treatment of AA in 100 patients. The first cohort was initially treated with zinc and then placebo, resulting in complete hair regrowth in 60% of patients after 3 months and maintenance for 3 months after cessation. Conversely, the second cohort was first treated with placebo and then zinc. After 3 months of placebo, 10% of patients completely regrew hair, and subsequent supplementation with zinc resulted in 67% of patients with complete regrowth. Side effects were mild, including gastric upset [106]. Topical and oral zinc supplementation may prove to be an efficacious adjuvant for both Androgenetic Alopecia and AA treatment in patient populations that would like CAM modalities"

5mg/kg is like 450 mg Zinc sulfate a day for me. This text is inarticulate. I presume this was done on zinc-deficient subjects.
 

badhabiz

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5mg/kg is like 450 mg Zinc sulfate a day for me. This text is inarticulate. I presume this was done on zinc-deficient subjects.
Zinc anti androgen effects are dose dependent. Btw zinc sulfate has around 20% elemental zinc in it. This is just an abstract
Yes of course those who are lacking have most benefits (not so rare today since tap water, microwave, food with plastic traces, we have an estrogenic environment who contributes to raise copper and estrogens and depletes zinc )
 

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Zinc anti androgen effects are dose dependent. Btw zinc sulfate has around 20% elemental zinc in it. This is just an abstract
Yes of course those who are lacking have most benefits (not so rare today since tap water, microwave, food with plastic traces, we have an estrogenic environment who contributes to raise copper and estrogens and depletes zinc )

Zinc was always touted as a pro-androgen substance, when taken internally as with zinc-rich food sources. But Zinc sulfate (internally) has an anti-androgen effect?
 

badhabiz

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Zinc was always touted as a pro-androgen substance, when taken internally as with zinc-rich food sources. But Zinc sulfate (internally) has an anti-androgen effect?
Elemental zinc has dose dependent effects on hormones. You can check on examine studies.
At rel low dosage is hormone regulator and this mild dht blocking properties favourites libido.
At high dosage is clearly anti androgen.
So, i would say It depends
 

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So Zix has both a bit of a golden color and can leave white residue in the hair?

Hm, I was thinking that Zix, being a thin liquid, would be preferable for long hair styles. Now normally I use an EO blend, which I roll on to my buzz cut. The roller ball releases a subtle, controlled amount which you then massage in to spread it around nicely. So this method of application doesn't make your hair too greasy like a dropper of EO would. If you sport long hair with diffuse thinning and then make it too greasy with, the thinning really stands out and your hair looks like sh*t.

The benefit of an EO blend containing, e.g., rosemary and caffeine, is that it has androgen blocking and ATP/circulation increasing qualities that persist all day — by contrast, a caffeine shampoo marketed to women is probably ineffective for AA because realistically you can only stand there with shampoo on your head for, what, 15 minutes? And you don't really want to wash long hair every day anyway, because that's ultimately counterproductive for overall hair and scalp health. So you're getting a pretty marginal if not negligible benefit from whatever additives are in such a shampoo.

So for these reasons I tend to think this type of blend is actually better than topical Minoxidil (internal Minoxidil is out of the question for my tastes). When I used Minoxidil in the past, I would spritz my hair lightly with water after applying the Minoxidil, and then comb it through (without roughing up the scalp). Then my hair would air dry and look okay. I'd usually add a few sprays of argan oil as my hair type is very dry, big, and somewhat wavy. Now a large amount of Minoxidil in the hair itself — if left to dry untouched— acts rather like a hairspray, but combing it out with water as I did would render the hair close to natural feeling, as if no alcohol/solution-based product was in the hair, which I hate.

So how do you go about styling the hair with Zix application? (Either with long hair or a buzz cut). I'm thinking it would leave too much evidence on a buzz cut that can't easily be gotten rid of as there's nothing to comb...

Zix is great for styling. I generally have had long hair. It dries and clumps your hair together somewhat but not in a greasy way. It rather gives it a cosmetic thickening boost.

After it dries I run my brush through my hair and it has body, life and looks thicker than it really is. Long or short it's great as a styling and quasi thickening agent.
 

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Zix makes my hair feel/look like plastic. That’s the only downside, when it dries there’s no way I can comb it. And I have fine/straight hair strands...
 

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Can anyone who used different treatments prior to zix compare them? So that we get a clearer picture.
 

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Guys I know, I am annoying as hell, but I always shed like a dog while on zix.
Whenever I think, it is coming to a halt, shedding starts again and I lose sh*t tons of hairs few days in a row, especially when combing wet hair.
I just don't know, if to drop it completely or continue despite the shedding, because my hair looks and feels much better with zix...
Also I have the feeling that I only receded when I dropped zix for a few month and stayed the same while being on zix, even though shedding went down without zix.
And yes, I use the recommended products and dosage ( I also tried less zinc, but didn't help).
Maybe someone experienced the same and has got some advice?
 

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Guys I know, I am annoying as hell, but I always shed like a dog while on zix.
Whenever I think, it is coming to a halt, shedding starts again and I lose sh*t tons of hairs few days in a row, especially when combing wet hair.
I just don't know, if to drop it completely or continue despite the shedding, because my hair looks and feels much better with zix...
Also I have the feeling that I only receded when I dropped zix for a few month and stayed the same while being on zix, even though shedding went down without zix.
And yes, I use the recommended products and dosage ( I also tried less zinc, but didn't help).
Maybe someone experienced the same and has got some advice?
Shedding isn't bad necessarily, for example I kept on shedding with fina for almost a year untill it finally stopped.

Most importantly, does your hair feel thicker? Has it stopped receding?
 

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Well, hair feels much thicker and looks like that while using zix.
I attached some pics, maybe they help, I don't know.
1: Almost 2 years ago, no sign of hairloss
2-3: Just before starting zix a year ago
4-6: while on zix for almost 6 months
7: beginning of 2020, when I decided to start again...
Thinning only in the temple areas and loss of density, doesn't look too obvious in these pics.
 

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Well, hair feels much thicker and looks like that while using zix.
I attached some pics, maybe they help, I don't know.
1: Almost 2 years ago, no sign of hairloss
2-3: Just before starting zix a year ago
4-6: while on zix for almost 6 months
7: beginning of 2020, when I decided to start again...
Thinning only in the temple areas and loss of density, doesn't look too obvious in these pics.
One or two times a day ?
 

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Crazy how having a good sleep hygiene can affect shedding. Been sleeping 8-9 hours for a week and shedding completely stopped, like I don't even see a single hair when I shampoo

if I sleep 6-7 hours, I shed a few hairs
If I sleep 3-4 hours, I can shed like 10-20 hairs
 

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Crazy how having a good sleep hygiene can affect shedding. Been sleeping 8-9 hours for a week and shedding completely stopped, like I don't even see a single hair when I shampoo

if I sleep 6-7 hours, I shed a few hairs
If I sleep 3-4 hours, I can shed like 10-20 hairs
Hmm maybe super sensitive to cortisol
 

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Well, hair feels much thicker and looks like that while using zix.
I attached some pics, maybe they help, I don't know.
1: Almost 2 years ago, no sign of hairloss
2-3: Just before starting zix a year ago
4-6: while on zix for almost 6 months
7: beginning of 2020, when I decided to start again...
Thinning only in the temple areas and loss of density, doesn't look too obvious in these pics.
Imo... i can’t even tell you have hairloss.

are you back on it? can you tell me where you ordered all of your stuff?
 

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My problem is I still have a full head of hair, it's just my hairline's receeding

How do I get the topicals in my scalp instead of my hair?

The hairline part, I understand, but how do I make sure the topicals get in my scalp where my hair's still extremely dense/thick (anywhere but my hairline)?
 
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