but I use what everyone uses .. PG and ethanol .. sometimes I also do the dermaroller before applying RU
Kintor has started Phase 3 trial in China for Pyrilutamide
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Not everybody Will react the same, I had chest pressure and a pressure under my adams apple like someone pushed a finger on your thyroid basically and held it there for 10 mins.
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one professional grade group buy circle indeed..
> well they got shedding and kinda got scared so..
just the type im comfortable going thru financial agreements with
> well they got shedding and kinda got scared so..
just the type im comfortable going thru financial agreements with
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It's people imagining things.
1. Nocebo
2. It's possible the 2% impurity is bad. Canlabs, a peptide supplier, has a post on this phenomena. Facebook is f*****g RETARDED and won't let me link to an individual post, but it's the 5th one down on their page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100061258091985
From trusted others I know, they've gotten heart issues when given RU from a sh*t lab, and had efficacy with zero sides when given RU from a quality lab. I myself had CB that burned my scalp. Quality CB gave me sideless temple fuzz.
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It was actually 99.8% pure, most sides are placebo
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the only legitimate reason to be worried about Pyri is that the trial was completed 1 year ago and its still not published. Random internet users with mental problems using products from untrusted labs only lead to confusion, they can't even run a self-trial properly lol
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isn't shedding a good sign?
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yeah its literally the best sign when using any new hair loss drug
if the drug is useless it shouldn't really force a new anagen phase that pushes out the follicle
if the drug is useless it shouldn't really force a new anagen phase that pushes out the follicle
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So why are those group buyers discontinuing the drug?
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Because nobody is dumb or desperate enough to keep shedding from an so far experimental chemical. Finasteride rarely gives a shedding phase or dutasteride I never experienced it. Many never even experience shedding from minoxidill and yet manages to get regrowth. Who said that pyrilutamide or ru or cb gives u massive shedding at first? I hear 95% say the opposite that shedding reduces within a week.
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I mean, there is literally almost no topical drug that makes you lose hair for no reason, if the drug doesn't work for hair, it just wont do anything at all in your hair cycle.
The only way to induce syncronized shedding is by forcing a new anagen phase in the follicles that pushes the old one, which is usually a good sign that you are targeting some hair loss related pathways. So unless the drug makes you enter in chronic-never-ending Telogen Effluvium it should be a good sign.
The only way to induce syncronized shedding is by forcing a new anagen phase in the follicles that pushes the old one, which is usually a good sign that you are targeting some hair loss related pathways. So unless the drug makes you enter in chronic-never-ending Telogen Effluvium it should be a good sign.
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If you participate in groupbuys you should steel yourself for any potential shed. You simply can't know if the product is working as intended until after the shed. I feel sorry for everyone that lost ground but you should've been aware that shedding (+ regrowth afterwards) was a possibility. Well, I guess getting spooked by it is natural since this hasn't been reported in any official trials yet.
The thing is the guys who are quitting due to the ongoing shed had relatively good hair from other treatments. So they dropped the things which gave them gains, started KX and now are losing all the previous gains. They panic and drop the KX after 2 months. These are not people who are NW3+ or some serious diffusers. If you want to know if this KX really works you need people with advanced NWs who are willing to use it 6+ months and not dense NW1 who are aiming at a Reagan tier NW0 hairline.
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To be honest it should be used as a monotherapy to really see his stand alone efficacy.
What financial agreement. You aren't sending money to them.
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"has been reported" from everyone outside of a clinical study. they tested CB on teenagers and children anyone who actually believes they would approve a drug that could potentially harm the heart is beyond repair. its interesting how people are getting those side effect en masse when they have not appeared in the trial. you could argue that they faked the trials in china which would be pointless since they will be conducting US trials when everything would come out. they would invest large sums of money to trial design knowing it will fail. also comical how people report shedding and hair loss worsening in addition to those sides, so it works as an anti androgen so strong that you get sides but it can not stop hair loss? it must be pointed out that most people who participate in those group buys are kind of mentally ill and hypochondriacs by heart. even a crappy study in china is better than these "posts on reddit"
dozens, actually if you search the topic on reddit there are zero posts on it so you made that up completely which is kind of cringe tbh. there is the occasional comment reporting what is happening in the discord but no post itself about this topic at all. also how many people get heart related side effects on topical minoxidil even though this is biologically impossible because you are getting only 1/1000th of the drug in your system that is normally used for blood pressure. I do not believe it works as well as most would hope but these posts have zero credibility.
"hey guys we market our drug in the US as a safer alternative for finasteride because finasteride causes ED in some men. better market our product and invest in an expensive US trial with our drug that does not halt hair loss but causes shedding, gives people heart attacks and sexual sides as well"
is their line of thinking I assume
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exactly. but they seem to imply that it actually causes more and more rapid hair loss which is just to exaggerate how bad they think the product is. not only does it give low androgen related side effects, it coincidentally does not work for hair so the only place it does not have these anti androgenic is the scalp, the place where you directly apply it to when it has been shown in the study that only a small amount gets to the blood and thus their dick and heart
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yeah there is a reason why trials not only exclude people who are currently on other hair loss drugs but also those who have been at any point over the last year or so, to prevent this from happening and falsify the results to the negative
Just a brief update.
The GB server completely derailed. Most of it's off topic, incel related stuff and general shitposting. No one is reporting anything relevant and dozen people dropped it because of sides, it's probably even more but they haven't reported it in the poll. Those who didn't participate the discord GB didn't miss out on anything, it's an absolute shitshow and full of mentally ill people with BPD and body dysphoria.
The GB server completely derailed. Most of it's off topic, incel related stuff and general shitposting. No one is reporting anything relevant and dozen people dropped it because of sides, it's probably even more but they haven't reported it in the poll. Those who didn't participate the discord GB didn't miss out on anything, it's an absolute shitshow and full of mentally ill people with BPD and body dysphoria.