Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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They actually released the product before publishing the study.

If we see a PowerPoint document as a study for Brotzu product with pics stolen from other real clinical trials, then we'll know
 

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Statement seem in February and releae in March. Everything will happen in a short period of time. Fidia clearly said no lotion before 2018. Dont think that they will publish anything. As tazzo said they will come up with an article on a famous italien news site and this very important.

But you are right. Its logic to show results before release date.

I read a few posts back you speak German. You live in Germany? So do I at he moment.

How about this: If this stuff actually comes out in March I will drive to whatever city you live in and buy you a beer. If not, you will swear that you will stop posting in this threadt till it actually comes out.
 

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I read a few posts back you speak German. You live in Germany? So do I at he moment.

How about this: If this stuff actually comes out in March I will drive to whatever city you live in and buy you a beer. If not, you will swear that you will stop posting in this threadt till it actually comes out.


One beer?

If this comes out in March and works, Iam going to run naked through whole Germany to present my glorious hair.

Afterwards Iam coming to the US of America to bring the holy brotion to the new land.

And so should you.

After this (maybe 5 years) Iam going to realize that my life is sh*t with hair and without.
 

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Probably not gonna work. Again he used REAL PGE1 in his studies and now in the commercial product he gotta use the precursor of it, sadly. GL, these dont turn magically to what we want (PGE1).
 

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Your emotions are your own.
Your baldness is your problem.
None of these companies owe anyone anything.
You should probably be prepared to work through the balding journey yourself, as a pragmatic matter.

I saw this comment when it was posted and thought I agreed with it, but after having a shitty morning today I realized that I don't agree with all of it. No company owes us anything--that's true. Baldness being 'my' problem is bullshit. I mean, I'll have to find some way to deal with it, sure, but if there were a virus or bacterial infection that just unleashed the torrent of psychological issues that comes with dealing with hairloss, especially at a young age, we'd be all over that sh*t. The fact that young kids go through this sh*t and contemplate suicide because they literally have no option is a testament to why people would love regular updates from these companies, even if they were fairly brief. And, obviously, the psychological ramifications aren't delimited by age.

Sick of seeing and hearing these banal platitudes, especially from people on this forum, when most of us have all probably had a good taste of the hell that this will bring you to at one point or another -- otherwise we wouldn't be on this forum anxiously waiting for the day we log in and see something worth actually logging in for. For everybody here baldness is their problem.
 

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Probably not gonna work. Again he used REAL PGE1 in his studies and now in the commercial product he gotta use the precursor of it, sadly. GL, these dont turn magically to what we want (PGE1).
He himself said in a interview that DGLA worked as well or even better
 

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Why aren't we slapping DGLA over our shiny heads ?

Because it wouldn’t penetrate. The thing that is advertised as the new sh*t is the liposomal vehicle.

In the german forum the clever people said, that DGLA is as good as PGE1. They just criticized, that the concentration isn’t big enough. But we never had the liposomal vehicle, so ... who knows.

I know sh*t about the science behind it just try to echo others statements.
 

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Because it wouldn’t penetrate. The thing that is advertised as the new sh*t is the liposomal vehicle.

In the german forum the clever people said, that DGLA is as good as PGE1. They just criticized, that the concentration isn’t big enough. But we never had the liposomal vehicle, so ... who knows.

I know sh*t about the science behind it just try to echo others statements.

So why not inject it subdermally ?
 

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Maybe you could, but the effort....

Did we ever injected anything?

Someone once said something I liked a lot:

It is not physics it is biology, so you can never draw conclusion out of the past for the future.

We will know when we tried it.
 

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Maybe you could, but the effort....

Did we ever injected anything?

Someone once said something I liked a lot:

It is not physics it is biology, so you can never draw conclusion out of the past for the future.

We will know when we tried it.

Anyone suicidal enough on forum to take a shot for their bald brothers and report back ?
 

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I saw this comment when it was posted and thought I agreed with it, but after having a shitty morning today I realized that I don't agree with all of it. No company owes us anything--that's true. Baldness being 'my' problem is bullshit. I mean, I'll have to find some way to deal with it, sure, but if there were a virus or bacterial infection that just unleashed the torrent of psychological issues that comes with dealing with hairloss, especially at a young age, we'd be all over that sh*t. The fact that young kids go through this sh*t and contemplate suicide because they literally have no option is a testament to why people would love regular updates from these companies, even if they were fairly brief. And, obviously, the psychological ramifications aren't delimited by age.

Sick of seeing and hearing these banal platitudes, especially from people on this forum, when most of us have all probably had a good taste of the hell that this will bring you to at one point or another -- otherwise we wouldn't be on this forum anxiously waiting for the day we log in and see something worth actually logging in for. For everybody here baldness is their problem.

Hey man I'm on this forum too; I've been here a while and I have had my own taste of baldness as well. It only seems like what I said was banal because it is cliché. And it is cliché because this simple truth has been uttered far too many times to the point of perhaps losing it's otherwise important meaning. Yet another such statement would be "you only live once" or something to that tune. It's just a simple truth.

I think you might be mistaking my curt response for general apathy. That's not where I am coming from, but I see that it could sound that way. My reply was in response to a young man whose perspective, to me, appears flipped. With enough talk of potential cures and loathesome discussions of the alopecia experience, I fear that there is a type of dysmorphia and reality distortion that one can fall prey to. My intent was to repudiate that view and remind everyone that it is the condition itself that is banal. We are literally surrounded by bald people.

This isn't to take away from the negative consequences of the condition itself, but rather to reaffirm that it is something one can deal with and if need be, accept, if for no other reason than to move on with life. The cure may or may not come out. Who knows? I am optimistic, but I think I need to be cognizant of reality as well. Yes it may suck to face the reality of baldness, but that may very well be reality. It is in that sense that I meant baldness is your problem.

And I cannot fully agree with your analogy of a viral or bacterial epidemic. I saw what you wrote about alopecia leading to suicides and while this is true, that is a very small minority of people. The vast number of people who bald do not come to seek refuge in internet forums. They don't even use finasteride or minoxidil. They just move on. Yes Androgenetic Alopecia research should receive more attention. But let's be objective when we assess its threat. I think a lot of the suffering is self inflicted. In other words, if losing hair is so painful, what would one do if he/she lost an arm in an accident? Have even more extreme responses that depression, anxiety, and contemplation of suicide? The loss of function, aesthetics, and having to bear the burden of being different - these negative consequences are all objectively worse in the case of a lost limb than hair. But I think we all know and hope for a person in such a situation to try to live his/her life to the fullest and move past the trauma. We would hope that the person is able to joke about the lost limb and put people at ease, rather than turn bitter and shy away from the world. And we in turn, having our limbs intact, and not having to bear the psychological burden of limb loss, would be able to use compassion and empathy to simply accept that person.

I think the journey of baldness definitely makes one feel much worse about life than they need to. Balding still sucks, I know of course. But we've all heard that other people don't care as much as we do and I think that is true. I hope the analogy of a person with a lost limb, as well as the reality that most men seek no treatment, as well as the fact that almost one in two men bald and that this condition has been around since the dawn of humanity all support that claim.

As far as I can see, the young people on this board who are really suffering don't need to be assured that there will be a cure or when it will be out. Nobody knows that and that's besides the point; I don't think the point should be that some external source should appear to annihilate the problem they face. Perhaps they instead just need assurance that regardless of what happens, they will be OK. Life will be OK. It's not all doom and despair; there will still be plenty of happiness in the future.
 
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Well, in december there are people going to test a GLA version on german forums (yes not DGLA).
 

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Hey man I'm on this forum too; I've been here a while and I have had my own taste of baldness as well. It only seems like what I said was banal because it is cliché. And it is cliché because this simple truth has been uttered far too many times to the point of perhaps losing it's otherwise important meaning. Yet another such statement would be "you only live once" or something to that tune. It's just a simple truth.

I think you might be mistaking my curt response for general apathy. That's not where I am coming from, but I see that it could sound that way. My reply was in response to a young man whose perspective, to me, appears flipped. With enough talk of potential cures and loathesome discussions of the alopecia experience, I fear that there is a type of dysmorphia and reality distortion that one can fall prey to. My intent was to repudiate that view and remind everyone that it is the condition itself that is banal. We are literally surrounded by bald people.

This isn't to take away from the negative consequences of the condition itself, but rather to reaffirm that it is something one can deal with and if need be, accept, if for no other reason than to move on with life. The cure may or may not come out. Who knows? I am optimistic, but I think I need to be cognizant of reality as well. Yes it may suck to face the reality of baldness, but that may very well be reality. It is in that sense that I meant baldness is your problem.

And I cannot fully agree with your analogy of a vital or bacterial epidemic. I saw what you wrote about alopecia leading to suicides and while this is true, that is a very small minority of people. The vast number of people who bald do not come to seek refuge in internet forums. They don't even use finasteride or minoxidil. They just move on. Yes Androgenetic Alopecia research should receive more attention. But let's be objective when we assess its threat. I think a lot of the suffering is self inflicted. In other words, if losing hair is so painful, what would one do if he/she lost an arm in an accident? Have even more extreme responses that depression, anxiety, and contemplation of suicide? The loss of function, aesthetics, and having to bear the burden of being different - these negative consequences are all objectively worse in the case of a lost limb than hair. But I think we all know and hope for a person in such a situation to try to live his/her life to the fullest and move past the trauma. We would hope that the person is able to joke about the lost limb and put people at ease, rather than turn bitter and shy away from the world. And we in turn, having our limbs intact, and not having to bear the psychological burden of limb loss, would be able to use compassion and empathy to simply accept that person.

I think the journey of baldness definitely makes one feel much worse about life than they need to. Balding still sucks, I know of course. But we've all heard that other people don't care as much as we do and I think that is true. I hope the analogy of a person with a lost limb as well, as the reality that most men seek no treatment, as well as the fact that almost one in two men bald and that this condition has been around since the dawn of humanity all support that claim.

As far as I can see, the young people on this board who are really suffering don't need to be assured that there will be a cure or when it will be out. Nobody knows that and that's besides the point; I don't think the point should be that some external source should appear to annihilate the problem they face. Perhaps they instead just need assurance that regardless of what happens, they will be OK. Life will be OK. It's not all doom and despair; there will still be plenty of happiness in the future.
I think we're the perfect example of how our problems are a lot less severe than in some third world country. If a kid had a Norwood 7 by the age of 18 while facing starvation, do you think his hairloss would be on his mind? No he wouldn't give a f***, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for us to hate this and not want to deal with hairloss anymore.
 

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I think we're the perfect example of how our problems are a lot less severe than in some third world country. If a kid had a Norwood 7 by the age of 18 while facing starvation, do you think his hairloss would be on his mind? No he wouldn't give a f***, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for us to hate this and not want to deal with hairloss anymore.
It's human nature to always want more than what you already have. Dwelling on someone else's misery is not a coping mechanism.
 

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You're always comparing yourself to your surroundings. That's why even CEO's and VIP's commit suicide sometimes. Hating that someone is better looking, better performing, having the better girl etc. This never changes. A third world guy will hate the fact that his neighbour's cow may be 10 pounds heavier than his own... and so on
 

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Whoever gets us an update before Christmas gets all my presents (my presents are alcohol. From me, to me).
 

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Because it wouldn’t penetrate. The thing that is advertised as the new sh*t is the liposomal vehicle.

In the german forum the clever people said, that DGLA is as good as PGE1. They just criticized, that the concentration isn’t big enough. But we never had the liposomal vehicle, so ... who knows.

I know sh*t about the science behind it just try to echo others statements.

Well, in december there are people going to test a GLA version on german forums (yes not DGLA).

Source? Link?
 

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Source? Link?


You can see the concentration of dgla in the patent document, as well as the liposomal vehicle.

The explanation of the doctor can be seen on the first site of the thread and in all his interviews.

And the other things you can read in the German hairloss forum.

I repeat: I know sh*t, just echoing
 
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