I don't understand this simple concept , help me understand

[Feelsbadman]

I obsessed so much about my looks because women and girls acted like I was nothing in high school and my early 20's.
I managed to become very good looking through obsession and trial and error. Women flirted with me and gave me special treatment. I'd get approached in bars and clubs. I was very attractive. Women wanted to be with me. But this was simply not sustainable. My T levels were destroyed, my happiness was poor. It was not worth it.

I dont understand. How can I accept myself for what I look like when I've experienced the above? If i eat well and take care of myself I'm ugly. If i go extreme looksxmax mode (not worth it) i'm good looking. So at what point do you accept yourself? By accepting myself that's accepting I'm undesirable to women. So what can you do?

 

[spring15]

Define "extreme looksxmax" ?? To transform you from self proclaimed 5'6 pale balding incel to "good looking" ??

 

[INT]

Define "extreme looksxmax" ?? To transform you from self proclaimed 5'6 pale balding incel to "good looking" ??

He has a tendency to exaggerate. One day he claims he is a genetic disaster and always has been and the other day he pretty much says there was a time where he was a giga Chad and women would throw their pussies at him.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Define "extreme looksxmax" ?? To transform you from self proclaimed 5'6 pale balding incel to "good looking" ??

It was a full blown obsession you've seen my posts when i get obsessed with something i don't let go. I spent incredibly long time through trial and error determine what results in the most female attention. From what i ate, my facial hair style, working out, sleep. Just extreme. But it worked.
It's just not sustainable.
Im not exaggerating ^ I am a genetic disaster , who just like a girl who is great with make up and a push up bra + other tricks can elevate myself into an attractive level.

 

[INT]

I obsessed so much about my looks because women and girls acted like I was nothing in high school and my early 20's.
I managed to become very good looking through obsession and trial and error. Women flirted with me and gave me special treatment. I'd get approached in bars and clubs. I was very attractive. Women wanted to be with me. But this was simply not sustainable. My T levels were destroyed, my happiness was poor. It was not worth it.

I dont understand. How can I accept myself for what I look like when I've experienced the above? If i eat well and take care of myself I'm ugly. If i go extreme looksxmax mode (not worth it) i'm good looking. So at what point do you accept yourself? By accepting myself that's accepting I'm undesirable to women. So what can you do?

You are viewing acceptance as a tool for happiness which shows that you are not practicing true acceptance. You just ‘want to do this whole acceptance thing that you keep hearing about’ and hope it will make you feel better. It does not work like that.

 

[Feelsbadman]

You are viewing acceptance as a tool for happiness which shows that you are not practicing true acceptance. You just ‘want to do this whole acceptance thing that you keep hearing about’ and hope it will make you feel better. It does not work like that.

But how can one be happy if their natural state is not desirable to women?

 

[INT]

But how can one be happy if their natural state is not desirable to women?

Leave this forum, make your sense of self-worth less dependent on pussy and get therapy.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Leave this forum, make your sense of self-worth less dependent on pussy and get therapy.

I'm sick and tired of people saying 'stop caring about women' 'stop caring about pussy etc'

so you're supposed just be happy and live happy with 0 female interaction or anything?

Its literally a basic human need. Babies die without physical touch

 

[INT]

I'm sick and tired of people saying 'stop caring about women' 'stop caring about pussy etc'

so you're supposed just be happy and live happy with 0 female interaction or anything?

Its literally a basic human need. Babies die without physical touch

Oh look, you do that thing again where you take something I say, remove any nuance, completely take it out of context and reframe it into a polarized version of what I actually said, just so that it becomes easier to attack.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Oh look, you do that thing again where you take something I say, remove any nuance, completely take it out of context and reframe it into a polarized version of what I actually said, just so that it becomes easier to attack.

But this isn't about self worth though?

 

[INT]

I'm sick and tired of people saying 'stop caring about women' 'stop caring about pussy etc'

so you're supposed just be happy and live happy with 0 female interaction or anything?

Its literally a basic human need. Babies die without physical touch

Also, you are right. Babies need physical touch. But babies do not need physical touch from a girl younger than 25, with little to no bed partners and an above average appearance...

 

[INT]

But this isn't about self worth though?

???

 

[Feelsbadman]

???

I dont derive my self worth from women
But being with women is essential for mental health?

 

[Isaac Newton]

Define "extreme looksxmax" ?? To transform you from self proclaimed 5'6 pale balding incel to "good looking" ??

With tan, transplant, and 2 inch lifts this hypothetical dude could shoot up in looks

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

But being with women is essential for mental health?

No its not. Look what happened to you with the last "woman" you were with. She fucked you over and drove you mental to the point of posting about her everyday.
Being with a woman isn't everything, and is definitely not a necessity in life.

 

[Feelsbadman]

No its not. Look what happened to you with the last "woman" you were with. She fucked you over and drove you mental to the point of posting about her everyday.
Being with a woman isn't everything, and is definitely not a necessity in life.

partially agree, that was my mistake though having a relationship with mentally sick person.. but isn't life better with regular sex or intimate healthy relationship with a women?
Being desired by women and having intimacy ?

 

[Gergely]

I obsessed so much about my looks because women and girls acted like I was nothing in high school and my early 20's.
I managed to become very good looking through obsession and trial and error. Women flirted with me and gave me special treatment. I'd get approached in bars and clubs. I was very attractive. Women wanted to be with me. But this was simply not sustainable. My T levels were destroyed, my happiness was poor. It was not worth it.

I dont understand. How can I accept myself for what I look like when I've experienced the above? If i eat well and take care of myself I'm ugly. If i go extreme looksxmax mode (not worth it) i'm good looking. So at what point do you accept yourself? By accepting myself that's accepting I'm undesirable to women. So what can you do?

Tip one: don't try to pick up girls in bars

 

[INT]

I dont derive my self worth from women
But being with women is essential for mental health?

You derive your lack of self worth from your lack of women.

 

[Feelsbadman]

You derive your lack of self worth from your lack of women.

Ok so the trick is not to care about women and live the rest of my life being content with my hand
Cheers

 

[INT]

Ok so the trick is not to care about women and live the rest of my life being content with my hand
Cheers

Oh look, you do that thing again where you take something I say, remove any nuance, completely take it out of context and reframe it into a polarized version of what I actually said, just so that it becomes easier to attack.