Only Kelly Slater is truly bald on those pictures.
Swingline, very good post. Tried to give you a green star but the system won't let me. You are evolving into a really great poster with the "voice of reason". Honestly Tatum would be nothing if it weren't for doing movies like Magic Mike and getting a six pack. No one cared about him when he was in 21 or 22 Jump Street where he was more flabby. And from what I read, he likes to eat whatever he wants and stay flabby. Most actors tend to reach "female popularity" when they show off their "six packs" in a movie. Taylor Lautner was another example. When Zac Efron finally went from a wimpy kid to sporting a "six pack" his "female popularity" increased as well. This is why many guys except Fred)) wants to maintain a "six pack".lets look at it logically tho
Not many of those guys are really super hot guys. Most are good looking but #3 and Statham are the only ones with no hair line what so ever and honestly those two are not good looking guys at ALL. #3 only really has those weird glass eyes helping him. The last guy, that convict, is just a really good looking guy and in my opinion Tatum looks like a big eared butter head.
Most of them are in good shape so that would help but being fit will help anyone, guy or girl. Even pre hair transplant I always kept in shape. I wonder how many here whine about their hair loss and not getting girls (yet want hotties) and DO NOT keep themselves in shape.
In the animal world the male usually HAS to be fitter and better looking to attract even average females. Look at how most animal males are super colorful and vibrant (like my aquarium fish) and the females are drab and boring. In all aspects men just want to get something wet. Females who are looking for the same can just louch around looking average. If they want to land that guy for the long haul they have to put that extra effort in, whether its in looks or "abilities". If a less attractive male wants a better looking female the same tho.
As a male you do genetically have to be somewhat superior to your competition and the female you want to attract. I would say hairloss makes things SO MUCH WORSE if you are already NOT a good looking guy but you should still be putting in SOME effort either physically or mentally (like an interesting talent or hobby).
Give it a try at least.
Don't sit around bitching wanting everything handed to you or you're no better than the welfare cases here in the USA I constantly banter about.
lets look at it logically tho
Not many of those guys are really super hot guys. Most are good looking but #3 and Statham are the only ones with no hair line what so ever and honestly those two are not good looking guys at ALL. #3 only really has those weird glass eyes helping him. The last guy, that convict, is just a really good looking guy and in my opinion Tatum looks like a big eared butter head.
Most of them are in good shape so that would help but being fit will help anyone, guy or girl. Even pre hair transplant I always kept in shape. I wonder how many here whine about their hair loss and not getting girls (yet want hotties) and DO NOT keep themselves in shape.
In the animal world the male usually HAS to be fitter and better looking to attract even average females. Look at how most animal males are super colorful and vibrant (like my aquarium fish) and the females are drab and boring. In all aspects men just want to get something wet. Females who are looking for the same can just louch around looking average. If they want to land that guy for the long haul they have to put that extra effort in, whether its in looks or "abilities". If a less attractive male wants a better looking female the same tho.
As a male you do genetically have to be somewhat superior to your competition and the female you want to attract. I would say hairloss makes things SO MUCH WORSE if you are already NOT a good looking guy but you should still be putting in SOME effort either physically or mentally (like an interesting talent or hobby).
Give it a try at least.
Don't sit around bitching wanting everything handed to you or you're no better than the welfare cases here in the USA I constantly banter about.
Different realities and all but I don't think I've ever heard a woman say "oh sh*t look at the muscles on that guy", women if they don't have a butt they go to fitness and do squats and they'll impress the lowest common denominator, a guy unless he has a pencil neck gaining bigger muscles won't make him a stud.
Tell me swingline, how many animals have you seen working out in the wild?
ALL OF THEM! They all fight for superiority. They all hunt and protect their packs. Most animals even flash and groom
You have to look good, fit and muscular naturally.
And I'm sure than even before you started lifting, you were already pretty huge naturally.
Not at all..... BUT I technically started working out when I was about 12 with some spare weights I found lying around. Genetically my pops is a skinny tard and my mom is slightly overweight. Perfect trailer trash couple. So neither of my genes dictate me to look the way I am. Its work.
Putting on muscles has no value to women, since any man can fake it to an extent.
Fake it how??? Wearing a muscle suit? Steroids? I mean if you can fake it so good then why isnt everyone doing it? Muscles are not what Im talking about. Im talking about NOT being a fat gross mess or super skinny twig and whining to cant land ANY woman!
You're right, you have to be genetically superior to your competition as a male. Note the keyword here: genetically.
But as you stated... apparently you can "fake" it so take some extra effort into yourself and apparently they wont even know its not genetic... riiiiight?
It's predetermined, you can't influence it and trick females into thinking you have a higher physical value.
Um yes you can Fred..... we BOTH had hair transplants. Technically we are BOTH tricking EVERYONE! Dont be a hypocrite. Your only feeding people with horrible self esteem to feel worse by contradicting yourself.
I've seen women commenting on short or ugly guy with huge muscles. They immediately think the guy is overcompensating and they will not be fooled.
Of course they do, but no one has to have HUGE muscles. again look up to see what I mean. You have to know when enough is enough. Unless you want more personally then youre doing it for YOU which is even better.
As a hair loss suffer, you should know that you shouldn't put down people for being lazy when their lack of success is just a result of bad genetics.
Yes bad genetics such as depression and anxiety, both of which I Also suffered my entire life with. Then you need to get help and medication. Also fitness helps with both of those by releasing endorphin's needed by the brain. Yes hairloss stinks but WE BOTH have said fat can be helped. So can super twiggy. It just takes some effort.
You said women were rejecting you when you have your strong NW3? Well I could tell you that you were just bitching around wanting women handed to you.
Actually no I was not. I was pissed about working so hard in life and not having one of the major things I wanted when my brother and sister BOTH had perfect hair. I wanted my hair fixed for me, WHICH I DID. Even if my relationship with my GF was perfect Id STILL have gotten a hair transplant (which many of mine in the past were when still taking hair loss treatments). SHOW ME ONE post where I said women should flock to me. In fact I always stuck up for women in understanding how they dont want a bald man. So again I took the next step just like you did, and got my hair transplant. Even after my body rejected the first I went and got the fix done and am very happy with it now. Its all effort.
No, it wasn't your fault. It was genetics, nothing you could do about it (until your hair transplant). No one could even tell you "hey just hit the gym!" Nope you had done that already.
But again, thats effort. Its energy to research, work hard and save up. I never said you need huge muscles or whatever, but in the end what Im saying is how many guys think if they had perfect hair they would be getting girls like these guys? These guys are in good shape. And just so you know as well, you can change your facial structure to a degree with working out. Your jaw line will alter and chisel a bit. How do you think female body builders get man jaw?
Take some time, work out. If you are to anxious to go to the gym then use videos. You dont need to be Schwarzenegger but you should not be Chris Farley or DJ Qualls (look him up, youll know who he is).
Get out and work still. Will I say to some degree I had an edge since my balding really didnt spike until about 23... yes of course. Will it be harder for some people? Yes but perhaps these guy with NW7's at 23 have a better family life than I did so they have/had that edge instead. We all hit our lows but many guys here who do whine never look for a high and you give them advice and they sound way to much like my depressive idiot pops or non social skills having brother. I get nasty buit always say "Im in a mood" at he end of the post. I will again, it happens, but I also try to give good advice as well without constantly feeding this hungry machine.
Couldn't rep you. I can often tell which are the guys on here with real life experience. Yes that convict is very good looking and also the top one. Jason Statham is not good looking, he is a celeb so will always have some following. If he was a day to day guy, he would not stand out for sure.
Keeping in some shape is definitely very important. If your ugly/balding badly, no one is saying it will compensate. But if you're good looking it does add that extra to you for sure. I've naturally had a pretty good frame in terms of shoulder width, neck thickness, big hands e.t.c despite being average height. Girls notice this a lot. It all signals masculinity, just like hints of cheekbones or a jaw. I am no where near as big as you, far from it, but working out has enabled me to put on muscle. The "oh he has started training look" lol. I don't do weights/diet the way I should as I am lazy outside of work. I do enough though.
OP is right about facial and body aesthetics even if he takes it too far, basically the nightmare is round feminine face and features, horrible frame and no muscle, little hair - egg on a stick as one bald member once said. Despite this, getting a gf is not a big deal or even casual sex, you see it in real life. Just the chances of landing a hot girl will be zero for casual but can get lucky with a relationship. Still, I would not want to be this guy as you have to make effort and don't get attention. Not to mention, girls may see you as a safety blanket. Guys will view you as inferior.
Ditto on males having to work for it, being superior, just the way it is. 3 weeks ago I have moved to a new place for work and two girls who work there have been messaging me non stop on whatsapp. Both are 6/10 (genuine) but it's interesting to see how much effort has been made. Constant questions directed at me and major hints dropped many times. I have literally only replied to their questions, nothing interesting said or flirting. This type of stuff never amused me until I came on this forum for some reason.
Now I realise they are trying to lock me down. How they could ever replace my gf, no way, she's not desperate for a start and actually has depth. Oh I would **** these girls if single though.
I'm sick of hearing I'm some disgusting skinny fat slob because I don't work out and everyone who doesn't work out deserves to be rejected by women.
Are my body and frame really that shocking? DoctorHouse always says we shouldn't want to be perfect and that it will only lead more men to develop BDD. And now I see he's supporting what you say?
I don't have a problem with my body, I like it as it is. Sure sometimes I wish I was bigger. But that just won't happen, I just hate the idea of mindlessly lifting weights in front of a mirror, this is just not my thing.
If you meant just keeping a healthy weight and healthy levels of body fat, then I agree. But I think it's sad to advance that if you don't work out, you're not a real man or something.
So working out is all vanity? Being healthy is vanity? Why does everyone think working out = roid rage?LOL @ guys thinking we'd develop an obsession over something else if we didn't have hair loss. Such bullshit. I've never had anything near a perfect body; I'm pale'ish, skinny and no Johnny Depp. It's NEVER bothered me before because I was NORMAL anyway. Muscle and all that I could easily gain through vanity, I mean, working out. But I won't go that route just to attract women on a superficial basis... hair loss causes you to deter women on EVERY basis. THAT'S the problem.
So working out is all vanity? Being healthy is vanity? Why does everyone think working out = roid rage?
Working out is anything from running to tennis.
HH Im sure you yourself have bitched about fat people.
You want an attractive, non fat woman right???? Thats NOT vanity? We are all vain. Vanity is a good thing. It means you take pride in yourself and want to be the best. Being conceded is different. People need to learn the difference between things. You cant get something for nothing. Im NOT saying "oh work out and be confident". I simply asked how many guys on here take care of themselves, I mean actually do? Prob not many, yet still whine. HH have you looked into a hair transplant? Is it possible for you
Different realities and all but I don't think I've ever heard a woman say "oh sh*t look at the muscles on that guy", women if they don't have a butt they go to fitness and do squats and they'll impress the lowest common denominator, a guy unless he has a pencil neck gaining bigger muscles won't make him a stud like a woman who does squats would.