Hairmax Lasercomb Results

mrright036

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I have been using the hairmax laser comb for 7 weeks now and have noticed much less hair fallout. Using it along with Nizoral and H&S.
 

bubka

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Rambo said:
Laser Comb is FDA approved as a hairgrowth stimulant .END OF STORY!
NOT IT IS NOT, it is FDA approved for safety as a cosmetic device, and under interstate commerce laws, they are pretty much allowed to make any claim they want, JUST LIKE wrinkle creams and any other type of cosmetic

but you are that stupid, so i can see how this is tough for you
 

bubka

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Rambo said:
Why do you always resort to name calling bubka? Is that what you do when you know you are losing an arguement?
you call it "name calling" i call it fact calling, when i am saying the facts, it's a lot more than just a meaningless name

do we really need to go back and post the FDA laws on cosmetic devices again?
 

beaner

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Well, I'm not chosing sides here and couldn't care less about the laser comb, but doing a bit of googling I found 2 items of interest. The laser comb was "approved" after the manufacturer submitted a 510(k) application (for medical devices) which is here along with the FDA reply:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Au ... cd=1&gl=us

Pasted below is the FDA procedure in response to 510(k)letters submitted and as you can see the "approval" is really not an approval and it seems that the lasercomb has not been approved to grow hair but merely to be sold in the U.S.

STEP 2: The FDA reviews your 510(k) application

Once you have submitted your 510(k) to the FDA, they legally have 90 days to review it. During that process, they may ask you for additional information at which time the "clock" is stopped and then resumed upon the FDA's receipt of your answer to their questions. If approved, the FDA will mail you a letter, with an assigned 510(k) number, that says they "have determined that your device is substantially equivalent to legally marketed predicate devices...and you may therefore market the device subject to general controls provisions of the (Food, Drug and Cosmetics) Act" Essentially, when they send you the letter, they are not approving your device, they are saying that your device is much the same as other devices (predicates) already approved by the FDA. You will not receive a certificate from the FDA, but this letter will be available on the FDA database as proof to your customers that your product is approved for sale in the US.


Did anybody actually do any research into this or are you all just arguing with no real clue? It took me 5 minutes to determine that this item is not approved for hair growth. If someone has any other info that may contradict this, please share.
 

bubka

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beaner said:
Well, I'm not chosing sides here and couldn't care less about the laser comb, but doing a bit of googling I found 2 items of interest. The laser comb was "approved" after the manufacturer submitted a 510(k) application (for medical devices) which is here along with the FDA reply:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Au ... cd=1&gl=us

Pasted below is the FDA procedure in response to 510(k)letters submitted and as you can see the "approval" is really not an approval and it seems that the lasercomb has not been approved to grow hair but merely to be sold in the U.S.

STEP 2: The FDA reviews your 510(k) application

Once you have submitted your 510(k) to the FDA, they legally have 90 days to review it. During that process, they may ask you for additional information at which time the "clock" is stopped and then resumed upon the FDA's receipt of your answer to their questions. If approved, the FDA will mail you a letter, with an assigned 510(k) number, that says they "have determined that your device is substantially equivalent to legally marketed predicate devices...and you may therefore market the device subject to general controls provisions of the (Food, Drug and Cosmetics) Act" Essentially, when they send you the letter, they are not approving your device, they are saying that your device is much the same as other devices (predicates) already approved by the FDA. You will not receive a certificate from the FDA, but this letter will be available on the FDA database as proof to your customers that your product is approved for sale in the US.


Did anybody actually do any research into this or are you all just arguing with no real clue? It took me 5 minutes to determine that this item is not approved for hair growth. If someone has any other info that may contradict this, please share.

dude i posted the same thing in a previous KiLLuMiNaTi / Rambo / Ramboteror post about the magic laser wand, it's people like this that keep snake oil like this actually marketable
 

beaner

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Cool, I didn't see that post. I just started a thread with the same info, hopefully people will learn something.
 

Ouroboros

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Yes; i get what your saying as far as FDA approval not necessarily meaning its approved for hair growth; I guess what matters more to me than even that is that; being involved with the medical profession myself; I have seen the positive effects of photobiostimulation in general, and above that the idea just plain makes sense to me; Oh, and i've been personally having positive results.
 

beaner

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Ouroboros said:
Yes; i get what your saying as far as FDA approval not necessarily meaning its approved for hair growth; I guess what matters more to me than even that is that; being involved with the medical profession myself; I have seen the positive effects of photobiostimulation in general, and above that the idea just plain makes sense to me; Oh, and i've been personally having positive results.

Good to hear. I really do hope it works for folks, but I also think they need to be aware that it really isn't approved in the same way as minoxidil and propecia.
 

1750

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so gents - any results from the laser combs yet?
I bought one in desperation a long while back and have since started using it again? feel like a bit of a moron when using it at home…
Kind of feel like I’m nuking my head with a star wars laser beam – peechow, peechow, vvvooom, vvvooom….
To be honest it’d feel like it was doing more if it made some cool light saber sounds.....

ALSO - Went into Advanced Hair on the weekend as I thought that they may have a lead on an endocrinologist specialising in the hormones of guys treating hairloss (who’ve had sides with finasteride etc).
Instead they just tried to sell me their regime which was made up of pechowing my head with their laser a fair few times initially and then dropping laser treatments back to monthly, seronoa (Saw Palmetto) 320mgs a day, and then their own proprietary concoction of minoxidil (which they would not disclose the ingredients). They do not endorse the use of finasteride due to possible sides....
Anyway - I got into a heated debate with the guy about hairloss and inhibiting DHT….. From their point of view a high content of saw palmetto and their laser therapy, shampoos and minoxidil (with undisclosed ingredients) was enough to combat the hairloss and was not just a bandaid minoxidil routine..... they reckon their routine does inhibit DHT..
I know these guys are rip offs but perhaps there is some merit in the usage of lasers???!!.......
Anyway - if I can peechow my head for a period of 8 months or so I'll let you know if anything happens from my end...
 

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1750 said:
They do not endorse the use of finasteride due to possible sides....
Anyway - I got into a heated debate with the guy about hairloss and inhibiting DHT….. From their point of view a high content of saw palmetto and their laser therapy, shampoos and minoxidil (with undisclosed ingredients) was enough to combat the hairloss and was not just a bandaid minoxidil routine..... they reckon their routine does inhibit DHT
I've been away from this forum for ages and I'm reading through a whole heap of threads. I had to comment on this though. I mean, we all hear how bad those guys are but imagine telling someone NOT to take finasteride. I don't know what to say. It makes me appreciate this site. It has some of the best information around and it's for free.
 

bubka

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i guess 2% chance of side effect is just too much, so lets go with worthless saw palmetto and laser pointers
 

ginger-uk

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1750 said:
so gents - any results from the laser combs yet?
I bought one in desperation a long while back and have since started using it again? feel like a bit of a moron when using it at home…
Kind of feel like I’m nuking my head with a star wars laser beam – peechow, peechow, vvvooom, vvvooom….
To be honest it’d feel like it was doing more if it made some cool light saber sounds.....

ALSO - Went into Advanced Hair on the weekend as I thought that they may have a lead on an endocrinologist specialising in the hormones of guys treating hairloss (who’ve had sides with finasteride etc).
Instead they just tried to sell me their regime which was made up of pechowing my head with their laser a fair few times initially and then dropping laser treatments back to monthly, seronoa (Saw Palmetto) 320mgs a day, and then their own proprietary concoction of minoxidil (which they would not disclose the ingredients). They do not endorse the use of finasteride due to possible sides....
Anyway - I got into a heated debate with the guy about hairloss and inhibiting DHT….. From their point of view a high content of saw palmetto and their laser therapy, shampoos and minoxidil (with undisclosed ingredients) was enough to combat the hairloss and was not just a bandaid minoxidil routine..... they reckon their routine does inhibit DHT..
I know these guys are rip offs but perhaps there is some merit in the usage of lasers???!!.......
Anyway - if I can peechow my head for a period of 8 months or so I'll let you know if anything happens from my end...

I used Advanced Hair and I made some progress. It was slower than I wanted, but it did work. The crown of my head thinkend, it was thining though not bald. I struggled most with the front. That certainly thinkened. In fact so much so that I ditched my quiff that used to hide probem.

I didn't get the results I'd hoped for, which was to round the front of the hairline perfectly. However, a fair few people commented on how much better it looked.

My treatment finished a year ago and since then my thickend hairs have started to thin again. I'm pretty low about the whole situation at the minute. I can see that with the current trend my hair will eventually detatch and leave a tuft at the front all on its own. I have decided that to check on here for options before I shave it all off.

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I switched to regaine 5% after the treatment, as thats what AHS switched too. They offered me a hand held laser, but for £900 UKP or $1800 I decided against it. I bought a cheap laser bush off ebay, but I think its a fake as I get no sensation from it.

I have also tried Noukrin Man and after 5 months my hair is still fading.

I think laser works, if its powerful enough, infact I saw many photos of previous clients at AHS as well as several staff who had gained from it.

I'm going back to see them about a top up of laser, I also want to try propecia (without perscription as I'm embarresed) before I commit to the blade.

I was 20 when I first noticed my hair was receeding, and 24 when I first started treatment. I'm now 26, 27 in October and have almost given up after nearly beating it....
 

Whyatt

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Save some bucks, wait a few years, try to keep whatever u can and get yourself a transplantation.

I think the laser studios promotes saw palmetto cos it's not classed as an medical substance requiring prescription - meaning they can make money on that too...
 

ginger-uk

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Thanks for the advice fellas, I'm definately going to try finasteride if I can get a prescription.

Transplants or strand by strand is not an option for me.

Rambo - Did you make any gains whilst on the AHS course?
 

ginger-uk

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Cheers Rambo, I'm pretty sure I am going to give it a go. However, feeling tired and turning pecs into breasts isn't on my wish list. I'm on the edge of comfort with my in its current state. Any further loss and I will be shaving the lot off.
 

stampede

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The pecs into breasts thing comes with plenty of warning. You don't just wake up with a pair of DD's you know. Enough warning to stop the pills if you need to.
 

ginger-uk

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Fair dos. Still not heard back from this sites shop as to whether the ship to the uk or not!
 

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Rambo, I noticed that you are giving up on the so-called "laser pointer". What made you change your mind, other than the obvious, and how long did you use it for. I'm still using mine, almost 6 months, and have seen some positive results, but not enough yet to jump on the Hairmax Bandwagon.

As I stated earlier, I'm also using J/A/S/O/N Biotin Shampoo and nizoral 1%. I just want to know what finally convinced you that the laser comb wasn't working. I'm deciding if I'm going to return mine since my results are negligible at best and am hitting my 6 months on the 29th. The problem with these damn things is that it's really hard to gauge success and by the time you realize that it isn't working, it's already past the guarantee. As a result, I'm a guarded sceptic.
 

jcosta

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Hey everyone,

I just contacted my distributor for the Hairmax Laser Comb and got them to extend my warranty for 8 more weeks since I'm coming up to the end of my warranty. I hope this helps anyone, like me, who is reaching a crossroad and deciding whether to keep it or return it.

I just figured 2 more months should be adequate enough time to determine if this thing works like it's been advertised or not. Please hold any comments on FDA approval. That's been done to death on this site and is irrelevant right now to what I'm sharing with you. Thanks...
 
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