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Going Bald In Less Than A Year, Need Advice

Discussion in 'Men's General Hair Loss Discussions' started by bluecyclone, May 23, 2017.

  1. Mapleman

    Mapleman Established Member

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    Most people won't have perfect hair through their 40's.. I see no significant difference, you are just greedy.

    200 hairs shedding every day is not alot when you have 1000000 hairs on your head.
     
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    1knox1 Established Member My Regimen

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    Both guys in here have focused far too much on shedding.

    @davesmith420 and @AnxiousAndy, some of the thickest hair ever, originally had the same worries. Then they realised that shedding was not a great indicator.
     
  3. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I get it I’m just looking for practical ways to reduce shed as I am noticing a cumulative loss of density. It’s not that I’m unrealistic it’s just the rate of change that’s concerning me and possible causes of the shed. Age, medicine, male pattern baldness, nutrition etc.

    Also I’m using topical Finasteride and want to determine if it is helping or doing harm.

    At 40 I had no issues, started thyroid medication and from there my hair has been in rapid decline. I’m healthy and having constant hair fall is constant distraction.

    Using oral minoxidil, helping or doing harm etc.
     
  4. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I have zero density compared to my base line and shedding matters when it is not growing back, what does grow back is thin garbage that can’t reach more than 3 inches. I know I’m not quite bald but For just a few years and having no hairloss to this thin mess I live with now. I’ve tried everything spend about 15k on treatments and doctors and nothing has even slowed the thinning.
     

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    MKP05 Established Member My Regimen

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    I think part of the problem with these pages is that it’s all relative. Guys are going to knock you because you’re in your 40s and still have quite a bit of hair. Some of it is fair and some isn’t. No one can tell you more about your hair loss situation than you. What these guys aren’t understanding is that you’re simply hiding it with length. When you show what’s going on underneath it’s obvious that there are issues. I totally understand what you’re going through as I’m a similar age and have very similar loss of density across my entire scalp since I started finasteride 13 months ago. I’m also able to hide it well but it gets more difficult with each passing month. I’ve been consistent with me treatment but my hair loss has still increased dramatically in the last year. You’ve bounced around on a lot of different treatments. Have you ever thought about simply stopping everything for a few months and just letting everything get back to normal? I’m convinced that some people just have an adverse reaction to these medications. I’m close to stopping everything to see what happens. And I know you don’t want to hear it but your situation could be far worse. You seem to be panicking for months on end and that surely cannot be helping. You do know that stress causes hair loss right? Take it easy.
     
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  6. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Thanks @MKP05 I know it’s relative and I’ve been fortunate. I know I jumped around earlier but August marks 1 full year on topical Finasteride and 2.5 years on oral minoxidil.

    Nothing has slowed down the thinning. I considered a few months off but I am terrified by the stories of a reaction shed.

    Really not sure where to turn next. I didn’t respond well to Propecia and to be honest I don’t feel 100% on topical Finasteride. Been working on the Lipsomal version but no luck yet. Even tried Vegan. This isn’t just age. I mean it hit fast and has been relentless.
     
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    My friend, I am the same age and was previously with a very thick head of hair. In my case the shedding started with a Trenbolone steroid cycle in June and still continues after pct. I also fasted for days at a time and worked out like a fiend during my cut, both of which are also know to trigger Telogen Effluvium. I have no intention of using finasteride or Min and am at the stage you were at during your initial thinning (30-40 hairs a day) with delicate treatment of my hair daily. All I use is Regenpure DR Shampoo. Not vigorously scrubbing, just allowing it to soak into my scalp with little manipulation.

    I believe in your case you had age, hormonal or physical stress related thinning/Telogen Effluvium and then started drugs that are both known to perpetuate Telogen Effluvium (abundant shedding), giving yourself chronic Telogen Effluvium, which in itself can even trigger male pattern baldness. These drugs are designed for regrowth (minoxidil) and to stop miniaturization (finasteride). Meaning, they were not designed for you to begin with.Any doctor who precribed them to you did so out of negligence without sufficient diagnostic testing. They are not designed to stop shedding and anyone who claims otherwise stopped shedding for other reasons. You are putting gasoline on a fire. Brave the shed and get the f*** off the drugs. You will likely recover some or a good portion of your hair or at the very least mitigate the damage. Given how long you have been using these drugs it may take a very long time to break the chronic nature of the cycle but overtime if the offending agent causing insult to the hair is removed, so will the problem.
     
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  8. Me Vs DiffuseThinning

    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    You have mental illness, not male pattern baldness.
     
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    I would say he has Telogen Effluvium. No normal person visibly sheds 300 hairs a day (probably closer to 500 if you want to talk about the hairs the randomly fall out during the day that are not counted.). Nor should the rate of shedding be increasing.

    OP is being judged by his initial pics but the ones he has posted since show Telogen Effluvium like diffuse thinning.

    This is still a pretty good head of hair at 40 but the pics demonstrated that he started with initially showed an unusually, incredibly thick head of hair for his age bracket.

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  10. Me Vs DiffuseThinning

    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    C’mon bro. Any head of hair can look thinning if wet and messy under a harsh light.
     
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    Okay just read this post, this is the clincher.

    The reason your Telogen Effluvium began, pushing yourself like this at 40 has it's consequences, this is what is likely to have started your Telogen Effluvium, and the meds put gasoline on the fire. A myriad of events that have lead to your current predicament.
     
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    Dude, from someone to go to a dense head of hair to this in a year in NOT normal.

    This is clearly not simply male pattern baldness. It completely defies the slow progression of the disorder.

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  13. Me Vs DiffuseThinning

    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Any full head of hair can look thinning if you part it and burst it with flash.
     
  14. DoctorHouse

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    I do believe his Hashimoto's thyroiditis needs to be factored into your equation. My hair started thinning more when I got diagnosed with the same condition and went on synthroid. Unlike him, I had genetic testing done and it shows I do carry the balding gene( father is a NW7 and started to lose his hair at 17). Otherwise I would have ditched the finasteride. I also tested that I would respond poor to finasteride too but I figured that might not be true so I stayed on it. Maybe it was true because I still continued to lose my density but over a 14 year span.

    I actually agree with you about this guy's case. I think he should drop all his treatments(finasteride and minoxidil) and see what happens. Synthroid has been know to cause hair loss too. Maybe it caused some of mine.
     
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    Good post. I never read about the thyroiditis. Another factor of the myriad of events that have lead to this.

    Listen to Dr. House folks. I can spot someone with a mind for being well read on certain medical issues a mile a way. My steroid use has taught me quite a bit myself through years of experience and digging through information.
     
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    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Thanks all really appreciate the thoughtful feedback and advice. I hope it can help other facing some rather abrupt changes to their hair after 40.

    I can see definite miniaturization at the hairline, and a slight difference in density in the horseshoe versus the back. Because of that miniaturization I’ve been hesitant to stop medication though it has not made any difference in the shedding or net loss of density. Could hair quality and miniaturization have additional causes to the DHT? My lab DHT is low, below range. T is above.
     
  17. baba_yaga

    baba_yaga Established Member My Regimen

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    If you really have continued hair loss even though DHT is low, lowering/blocking T will be a great option to stop hair loss, but its not for everyone.
     
  18. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Not really an option. I didn’t just start working out out of the blue, played D1 college football, lifted, ran into my 40s. The thyroid issue/medication was the first major medication change and the onset of this chases by about 5 months. I really don’t think I ever needed the medication, now two years later I’ve gone from taking 25mg to 125mg daily to stay in range. Temples are going quick in the last few months.

    I’d try just about anything topical that wouldn’t compromise overall well being.

    Intrigued by CB and stem though it reads like I’m a bad candidate.
     
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    bluecyclone Experienced Member My Regimen

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    This shedding is ridiculous. I’m looking at 50 hairs if I even gently brush my hair.
     
  20. Calikid

    Calikid Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I feel your pain. These past couple of weeks have been the worst of my life. I’m losing 300 hairs a day now. I thought no way in hell anyone or you could be losing that much hair. There’s just no way he can have hair like that with that kind of loss. But now I can completely understand. Granted your hair looks goods still.

    Me on the other hand. My hair is going down hill very quickly. My hair is vanishing before my eyes and I can’t do anything about it. I think I am having an adverse affect from one of these medications. I never noticed any shed prior to treatment 19 months ago...... since then it’s steadily increased over time.

    I hope it’s oral min, as for when I started that I got an increased shed all over my head. However when I started finasteride I got a shed and when I addded duta for a 5 month period my shedding increased even more....... so I don’t know what could be causing Telogen Effluvium.

    I’m done taking oral min and topical min. I’ll keep you posted on what happens over the next weeks/months.

    Sincerely depressed and desperate balder
     

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