Follica (first Time Ever Picture) - Exciting

[Notorious90]

No you've misread.

That slide was the results of the study using only skin disruption. Which, at the time of publication, seems to be the study before they did the optimization.

This is actually bigger news than anyone has given it credit for, because to my knowledge, this is the only study that has followed up on microneedling alone's sustainability.

Without the compound(s), the results are lost after a few months.

So that's that.

However, what's very interesting, is that they have now abandoned the home-application of the compounds which were obviously required for sustainability. This could indicate that, during the optimization study, they found a way that continuous drug use is unnecessary.

Even if I have to keep using finasteride and stuff, I'm willing to do that. I mean, it just makes me hope Shiseido pulls through more, put still.

What's most impressive to me, is the other slides that show hair growth around reference tattoos.

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This is all after just a single disruption btw. That is definitely a good increase in hair.

With multiple treatments and sustainability, this will be legit. Like, if you can get Follica'd a few times, and then hit it with RCH-01, that's all a great majority of people would need.

Good stuff.

I hope I have misread but the header on the table does say disruption + drug

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

Thanks for being so thorough and finding facts.

A few of the kiddies here were saying this might just be microneedling on steroids.

Boom! Even if it was JUST that it’s a good addition to the big three. I can’t believe how pussy some of the guys are here.

It's just microneedling + minoxidil. LOL

 

[alscarmuzza]

No you've misread.

That slide was the results of the study using only skin disruption. Which, at the time of publication, seems to be the study before they did the optimization.

This is actually bigger news than anyone has given it credit for, because to my knowledge, this is the only study that has followed up on microneedling alone's sustainability.

Without the compound(s), the results are lost after a few months.

So that's that.

However, what's very interesting, is that they have now abandoned the home-application of the compounds which were obviously required for sustainability. This could indicate that, during the optimization study, they found a way that continuous drug use is unnecessary.

Even if I have to keep using finasteride and stuff, I'm willing to do that. I mean, it just makes me hope Shiseido pulls through more, put still.

What's most impressive to me, is the other slides that show hair growth around reference tattoos.

View attachment 132612

This is all after just a single disruption btw. That is definitely a good increase in hair.

With multiple treatments and sustainability, this will be legit. Like, if you can get Follica'd a few times, and then hit it with RCH-01, that's all a great majority of people would need.

Good stuff.

A less compressed trichogram:

 

[NewUser]

I hope I have misread but the header on the table does say disruption + drug

Look at the date on that. Bottom of table on page 29 says October 11, 2011.

 

[MrV88]

A less compressed trichogram:View attachment 132634

Could you tell me from when and what stage this trichogram was made?
Base information about treatment and compounds?

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

Looks convincing. Anybody expecting more is delusional. Pic is for ants though.

 

[NewUser]

Looks convincing. Anybody expecting more is delusional. Pic is for ants though.

I'm expecting more. No doubt the topline results in that pic dated 2019 got me excited. But the date stamp at the bottom of results table on page 29 says 11OCT2011. Why the diff?

 

[alscarmuzza]

Could you tell me from when and what stage this trichogram was made?
Base information about treatment and compounds?

I believe this is in reference to page 24

 

[kiwi666]

It's really happening. 15 years and it's really happening.

it really looks like it

 

[Armando Jose]

Lol.

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Deceptived images IMHO

 

[Armando Jose]

Lol.

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Deceptived images IMHO

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

Deceptived images IMHO

For sure. This is Brotzu 2.0. These results are not impressive given that the follica data itself rules out maintenance with needling only. Minoxidil is required for this to work. This is nothing new. It's overpriced and glorified microneedling+minoxidil protocol.

 

[byebyehair]

Your mum.

Seriously though you have no idea. Your ideas are zero. Your clues are zero.

The exact opposite rhetoric “it’s amazing it’s going to work” is also just fan fiction.

The real problem with you specifically is that you’re such a repetitive whinger. Those of us looking to read actual data have to read through your repeated blah blah blah blah blah...

Please goto the girls Hair transplant thread. Make friends or not over there.

wrong forum - there is a hair transplant forum

Thanks for being so thorough and finding facts.

A few of the kiddies here were saying this might just be microneedling on steroids.

Boom! Even if it was JUST that it’s a good addition to the big three. I can’t believe how pussy some of the guys are here.

Dude u add no Info's. And I for once am not interested in what you think about every single post. So please listen to what a wise man once said.
"Those of us looking to read actual data have to read through your repeated blah blah blah blah blah..."

 

[hairloss_user]

So what if it's minoxidil + needling. They have studied this for years and hopefully know the optimal way to perform this. That is what's interesting. What we're all doing now is just trying different things, but really don't know what the hell we're doing.

 

[kiwi666]

For sure. This is Brotzu 2.0. These results are not impressive given that the follica data itself rules out maintenance with needling only. Minoxidil is required for this to work. This is nothing new. It's overpriced and glorified microneedling+minoxidil protocol.

REPEAT

 

[Armando Jose]

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Where is the neck in the second image?

 

[Armando Jose]

Or this
J Control Release. 2019 Nov 2;316:1-11. doi: 10.1016/j.jconrel.2019.11.002. [Epub ahead of print]
Transdermal finasteride delivery via powder-carrying microneedles with a diffusion enhancer to treat androgenetic alopecia

 

[kiwi666]

Deceptived images IMHO

Ummmm that’s not proof that’s just you trying to explain the angles and disproof something.

You MIGHT be right but equally you might not be.

AND the after shots still show a thicker head of hair despite the angle.

One could argue they choose they angle to better show the growth. But that’s just me speculating like you

 

[kiwi666]

Dude u add no Info's. And I for once am not interested in what you think about every single post. So please listen to what a wise man once said.
"Those of us looking to read actual data have to read through your repeated blah blah blah blah blah..."

Data. The guy complains about EVERYTHING.

Data. Follica are doing needling but not like how people do it at home. That is great news if a more reliable needling solution hits the market.

I’m buying.

 

[MrV88]

I believe this is in reference to page 24

Page 24? We just have 8 pages here..confused