Follica (first Time Ever Picture) - Exciting

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

Sad that even Follica can't show professional photos.

Anyway, the improvement seems legit though.

It's hard to tell if it's even the same dude, lol. All we are seeing is a head (two heads?) superimposed on a blue theme. You can't see any skin at all in the second picture. I believe that it's the same dude myself, but damn these pics are unprofessional as hell.

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

Lol, fck this industry so much if even Follica wants to scam us.

Here you can actually see a black 'marker' to keep the participant staring directly straight in order to keep a straight angle. On the second picture, 85 days later, they left the marker there, but decided to f*** it and not give us a proper angle. Likely because the results were underwhelming to their expectations.

 

[acbrantlin]

Lol.

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Also the fact that the combover hairs in the day85 picture are at least 2 inches long, so they physically can't be new hairs because even the healthiest and fastest growing hair in the world doesn't grow that fast. So they have to be combed over from below. If you look through the combover, you can roughly see the same sized bald patch in both pictures that don't have hair. It honestly does look like there's a little regrowth, but given the other obfuscation techniques they used, the actual amount of regrowth looks very very minor. So there's currently no evidence that it works well enough to be worth doing.

And again, if this product does do something, the chances of a dermatologist near you getting the device in under 2 years after launch isn't high even if you request it. Higher chance that a 'hair specialist' with huge visit fees will get it. The price of a single office visit + treatment will be hundreds of dollars. And you'll need to do it who knows how many times or for how long. And we don't know if they'll tell you "for full effectiveness, continue to use minoxidil daily in between sessions".

We effectively don't know anything.

I stand by the idea that if a new treatment worked, we'd already know. The fact that this has been in development for over 10 years and we still don't know anything means the odds of it being a dud are very very very high.

 

[badhabiz]

I stand by the idea that if a new treatment worked, we'd already know. The fact that this has been in development for over 10 years and we still don't know anything means the odds of it being a dud are very very very high.

if its the criteria so CB reports are out since 2010 (studies from 2004/2008) and they disappeared for years...just saying can happen (or you are right and its all commercial scam)
http://files.investis.com/csm/presentations/RDday2010.pdf
but yes, 10yrs development does not look good

 

[alscarmuzza]

Article on Fierce Biotech
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-report/emerging-drug-developer-follica
CEO quote:
"What's nice about it," she adds, "is that even though this is based on breakthrough science, we are using existing compounds previously approved for systemic chronic use and reformulating them for topical acute use. We know these compounds are safe in people."

If she is referring to compounds approved for systemic (in the bloodstream), then I would guess that those might include any approved drugs for the same purpose. So Finesteride, or Dutasteride? You might add Minoxidil to that list, but it really was never approved for systemic use for hair loss.

 

[kiwi666]

go pay a premium price for an overpriced dermarolling session. you're a f*****g idiot. for every bad transplant in turkey there are a 100 good ones. of course, north american doctors with their inexperience and lack of clients will say that turkey is dangerous. LOL

there are other threads here for broke *** baldies like you - please have a whinge in the hair transplant thread instead please.

 

[kiwi666]

And hair brushed to the side in the second pic to combover the crown. Whilst hair is combed straight down in the first pic to expose as much of the crown as possible.

This is hilarious!

Your constant whinging is hilarious. I know I suggested hair transplant thread but there are websites dedicated to chicks loosing their hair.

Maybe you are better suited for those communities.

 

[soull]

I do not understand the effort you make to discredit every possible treatment as vultures. Nor am I surprised by the escape of forum members to "discord" or "telegram" groups. Clearly there is improvement visually although it is true that in the area below this hairstyle for one side but still the improvement is evident. Some hope to return to NW0 or have the hair of a 15 year old, that will never happen!

It is being confirmed that he uses minoxidil but they are never sure because they have no idea and just come to vent or some kind of unknown interest.

In their patents they indicate that they use ACIDO VALPROICO.

 

[RU serious]

I don't know how you don't see improvement there even if the head is a slightly different angle.

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

I do not understand the effort you make to discredit every possible treatment as vultures. Nor am I surprised by the escape of forum members to "discord" or "telegram" groups. Clearly there is improvement visually although it is true that in the area below this hairstyle for one side but still the improvement is evident. Some hope to return to NW0 or have the hair of a 15 year old, that will never happen!

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It is being confirmed that he uses minoxidil but they are never sure because they have no idea and just come to vent or some kind of unknown interest.

In their patents they indicate that they use ACIDO VALPROICO.


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No one said there isn't improvement, only that there is minimal improvement. The fact that they used a different angle + double combover from the side AND the back is a very shady tactic.

 

[soull]

although it has a slight different inclination, the improvement is clearly seen. Do you expect to return to NW0 with this? This is not Tsuji, TiisUse etc. It is what was expected!

It is clear that the perspective of some people are unreal moved by their emotional state. I think they will be happy if they only see a hair prosthesis and tell them that this was achieved with a liquid.

 

[Sanchez1234]

Everybody here who has half a brain knows you are sh*t. You don’t deserve a cure. I hope your follicles rot. I hope you can’t afford what’s coming

So enlighten me.. in what way is it possible to wound differently? Probably something like licl or something as the topical

 

[Sanchez1234]

I do not understand the effort you make to discredit every possible treatment as vultures. Nor am I surprised by the escape of forum members to "discord" or "telegram" groups. Clearly there is improvement visually although it is true that in the area below this hairstyle for one side but still the improvement is evident. Some hope to return to NW0 or have the hair of a 15 year old, that will never happen!

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It is being confirmed that he uses minoxidil but they are never sure because they have no idea and just come to vent or some kind of unknown interest.

In their patents they indicate that they use ACIDO VALPROICO.


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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24533507/

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

although it has a slight different inclination, the improvement is clearly seen. Do you expect to return to NW0 with this? This is not Tsuji, TiisUse etc. It is what was expected!

It is clear that the perspective of some people are unreal moved by their emotional state. I think they will be happy if they only see a hair prosthesis and tell them that this was achieved with a liquid.

Follica is just glorified dermarolling.

 

[Fgsfds]

OP is low IQ and therefore didn't provide the source, where you can see the picture in the full HD. So here it is, and you can look for yourselves:

https://www.puretechhealth.com/images/PureTech-Corporate-Presentation_FINAL-111919-Web.pdf

 

[soull]

OP is low IQ and therefore didn't provide the source, where you can see the picture in the full HD. So here it is, and you can look for yourselves:

https://www.puretechhealth.com/images/PureTech-Corporate-Presentation_FINAL-111919-Web.pdf

 

[MeDK]

• Follica’s approach is comprised of a proprietary device designed to stimulate hair follicle growth, followed by treatment with a pharmaceutical compound to thicken and maintain newly created hair follicles

So its still the mantra with skin disruption and put on a what ever compound. So it could be that its not a permanent treatment because of the following use of compounds, which i could translate into a form of "minoxidil 2.0" with using what ever on your scalp 1-2 times a day.

Of course we will have to wait untill we know what the treatment actually is, and if its a temporary or permanent. But as i have said before, not a fan of greasing up my head to destroy clothing because of it.

Still waiting for an official statement from replicel, maybe it will come with next financial period. but for now Follica isn't there yet.

Like it already been stated in the pictures, its not hard to replicate a photo shoot, or even cut the hair to the same length. So could be its clever PR to still have some wind in the sails for the treatment. Just think about it, how often to you do a comb over all of suddenly? its just sad really.

And the whole SIGNIFICANT, we seen the use of that word before for treatments that give close to none regrowth.

 

[That Guy]

So enlighten me.. in what way is it possible to wound differently? Probably something like licl or something as the topical

It may not even necessarily be about wounding "differently". It could based on application timeframes, ethnic variances, depth, individual variances, some other sort of prep, environmental factors during healing, etc.

We don't know. The only people who probably do, given the amount of research they've done.

Remember that Jahoda solved a problem with the cells he was cultivating by flipping the petri dish upside down back when.

The solutions could be something absolutely retarded and innocuous.

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Your transplant surgeon taking a break between cases.

Send bobs n vegene and you get 20% off.

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The guy's head is not tilted to the side, his head is actually tilted back a bit, and his hair has just been combed sideways, which should've been discouraged but still. The hair also appears to be about the same length as the before photo.

but still, it's obvious looking at the direction of the hair in the second photo that combing sideways would not cover that bald spot and that new hair is spiraling out from it, as it would naturally grow.

I'm sorry, but bitching about this is f*****g retarded. Especially since we don't know which trial this is from, or how many sessions this guy had. This could be one session for all we know.

This is about consistency. If they can more-or-less guarantee you that kind of result, then you'd have to be stupid not to go for it.

 

[Agent]

This treatment is the most promising thing that we’ve had news about for years.

 

[acbrantlin]

I did say that I think there is some regrowth. But anyone with actual hair loss knows how powerful combovers can be for covering up the scalp. I'm posting this so people can see how much of the perceived difference is from combover hairs to demonstrate that the only acceptable form of comparable data are phototrichograms. This photo is proof that head shots can't be used as reliable evidence. You can nitpick the edit if you want, but it's futile to think there isn't a significant amount of combover hairs covering the scalp. Most of those green arrow hairs are at least 2inches long. Healthy hair doesn't grow 2 inches in 85 days, so those can't be new hairs.

Follica hinges on the results of their next dataset.