Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

keepcoolmybabies

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“Aggresive baldness”, I want to punch you in the face for this. You’re spitting in the faces of dudes that really had aggresive baldness.
You remind me of guys that call their bad behaviour as being “bipolar” or being lazy as having severe ADHD etc. I pitty people that find you intelligent.

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This is example of aggresive baldness, nw7 at age of 19 and good recovery with ru,dutasteride,minoxidil and maintance for 4 years. And you telling me your 15-30 hairs regrowth is worth opening a thread while literally being castrated for suboptimal results. Get a grip.
That's an impressive recovery
 

Nebula74

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How do you drink it?? I put 15 -20 mg worth of topical liquid under tongue and immediately i wash down with water!! No i don't want to do it subligually because it must processed by the liver to produce minoxidil sulfate subligual is not the same as oral!! How do you drink it?? what is ur method?? please tell me my method is problematic i think!
I just use the dropper to pour my dosage and then I drink it like a shot because it doesn't taste nice
 

MylovelyHair

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1.5months in I would say, then It started stagnate and its linear progress of regrowth from then on.
Dani during the surgery did you use oral minoxidil and the other meds?? What meds were you on during that time?TIA bro :D
 

likemike

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I've stopped using Cpa, my skin was thin, dry and got wrinkled.
The complete deprivation of androgens isn't healthy on the long run.

Now i am using bicalutamid 25mg like KCMB does...
And E2 gel under foil each leg.. So I avoid Peaks and feel now very well.

Maybe it needs some weeks to restore the skin.....
 

cetm-419

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temple regrowth after 3 months of E2 injections, spironolactone (I changed to bicalutamide a couple of weeks ago).
I'm also using finasteride and oral minoxidil, but I'd been on that treatment for over a year with good results before starting hrt.

What amazes me the most is that I don't have recession at the temples, just some very very slight thinning. My main concern is the diffuse thinning at the top; I have shown pictures of my hair before starting HRT, but I won't show them again atm, as there is not much to show yet. But judging by the regrowth at the temples, I hope to see a significant improvement in 3 more months.
 

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cetm-419

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I'm also getting gyno surgery this summer, before it gets out of hand. Although it's not noticeable or annoying atm, but that's probably my genetics and the fact that I'm as skinny as timothée chalamet.
 

cetm-419

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regarding "manhood": My libido is not gone, but very different. I don't get random erections anymore, but if I'm "in the mood" it feels awesome, and works just like before. The only sexual downside I see so far is the lack of sperm.
 

cetm-419

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btw, the little hairs you see in my forehead in the before pictures are from oral minoxidil... I was a great responder.
 

dar3k

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3 weeks Bicalutamide 50mg + 6.25mg CPA + 1mg Dutasteride + 10mg oral minoxidil

4 weeks Bicalutamide 100mg + 1mg Dutasteride + 10mg oral minoxidil

Still loosing ground for f*** sake
 

Rysteve93

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3 weeks Bicalutamide 50mg + 6.25mg CPA + 1mg Dutasteride + 10mg oral minoxidil

4 weeks Bicalutamide 100mg + 1mg Dutasteride + 10mg oral minoxidil

Still loosing ground for f*** sake
Relax mate, give it a chance to work. You’ll likely loose ground first.. Generally a good sign that the drugs are actually working. Especially with 10mg minoxidil. I lost ground also before I saved my hair.. give the drugs at least 6months to work mate. Don’t let it consume your life mate get out in the sun and enjoy life. No doubt you’ll be happy with your hair in 6month/1year with those drugs. Cheers
 

dar3k

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Relax mate, give it a chance to work. You’ll likely loose ground first.. Generally a good sign that the drugs are actually working. Especially with 10mg minoxidil. I lost ground also before I saved my hair.. give the drugs at least 6months to work mate. Don’t let it consume your life mate get out in the sun and enjoy life. No doubt you’ll be happy with your hair in 6month/1year with those drugs. Cheers
Im using oral minoxidil since 1 year. Dutasteride since 5 years and Ive been loosing ground on it.

I went from Norwood 1 to Norwood 4 in 5 years while using Dutasteride...

Only Bicalutamide is a drug that im using since 1 month and Its my last hope
 

Almas_NW0

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Im using oral minoxidil since 1 year. Dutasteride since 5 years and Ive been loosing ground on it.

I went from Norwood 1 to Norwood 4 in 5 years while using Dutasteride...

Only Bicalutamide is a drug that im using since 1 month and Its my last hope
Spend another 5 years on Dutasteride, Minoxidil and Bica and you won't have any hair at all. The advisors in this thread will tell you to give the drugs more time, 6-12 months, so it's not that far from reality lol.
And you will make this survival bias and you will continue to hope.
 
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Almas_NW0

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Treating hair loss with HRT, HRT cycles will eventually lead to testicular atrophy and inability to produce your own T, forcing you to either stay on HRT forever or use T injections. I will try testing RU between cycles and see if it will support my baldness. Hope it's not too expensive...
Now I am read information about post-cycle therapy, which is used by bodybuilders after using steroids. According to the information I have, Clomid can help restore T levels and turn on your testicles after a course of estradiol, but each time it will work worse, and eventually, sooner or later, the testicles will die.
So the victims are quite serious, and we need a good drug to support. But if the choice comes between testicles and hair, I will choose the latter and be ready to sacrifice my T for the sake of hair, without which my whole image, my whole appearance is destroyed.

People here think I'm promoting something, but in fact, I always understood that HRT is a remedy for the desperate, who put hair above all else.
 

cetm-419

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Spend another 5 years on Dutasteride, Minoxidil and Bica and you won't have any hair at all. The advisors in this thread will tell you to give the drugs more time, 6-12 months, so it's not that far from reality lol.
And you will make this survival bias and you will continue to hope.
one anecdotal case like yours doesn't define what others will experience. For many with aggressive baldness bica is more than enough, specially when used with oral minoxidil and of course a 5ar-inhibitor. And yes, 6 months is the least you should give to a treatment before discarding it.
 

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"The medical records of patients who underwent radical prostatectomy with ADT were retrospectively reviewed. In all, 221 patients were included in the analysis. Testosterone recovery was defined as supra-castration (SC) (testosterone levels in serum >50 ng/dL) or out of hypogonadism (OH) (>300 ng/dL) after ADT withdrawal.

Patients treated with ADT for ≤18 months recovered to OH in a mean of 6.8 months (74.6%), but patients treated with ADT for >18 months recovered in a mean of 9.7 months (27.5%)".


if you don't abuse hrt (using high doses for more than 18 months) there are good chances that you won't have any problems... the ideal treatment plan is not to use full hrt for more than 12 months; afterwards, with a low dose of bicalutamide + 5ar-inhibition you should be able to maintain the progress you've made; maybe even a really small dose of E2 would solve any health related problems of ADT form bicalutamide.
 
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Almas_NW0

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For many with aggressive baldness bica is more than enough
Successes in aggressive early baldness will not even fit on the fingers of one hand. Besides, I don't remember him helping anyone without E. Dani was successful, but at what age did his baldness start? Success was with Ein with a rather strange pattern of female pattern baldness, and with DHTcel, which outperformed people on HRT, making it hard for me to believe they are real. In the Russian segment, in this thread where I read all the posts, he helped a minority. You are so focused on successful cases, overlooking those who continued to go bald on Bicalutamide.
And you will make this survival bias
And yes, 6 months is the least you should give to a treatment before discarding it.
No, and if elementary logic is available to you, then you should understand this:
If your baldness, your follicle miniaturization continues after the medicine has accumulated in your body and started to do its job, then there is no point in waiting any longer, the negative dynamics will not change. And to notice the negative dynamics, in my experience, three months are enough. Not changing your treatment regimen for half a year if you see continued deterioration is a big folly.
If the drug works for you, you should at least see no progression of miniaturization after the drug has reached its concentrations. Notice I'm not talking about telogen hair loss.
By the way, I have never experienced telogen shedding.
afterwards, with a low dose of bicalutamide + 5ar-inhibition you should be able to maintain the progress
If Bicalutamide didn't stop hair loss before HRT, it won't stop it after HRT when my T and DHT are back. For example, Dutasteride did not stop Noah's baldness before HRT, and after HRT, remaining on it, he began to go bald again. You seem to have a logic problem.
 
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Almas_NW0

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Patients treated with ADT for ≤18 months recovered to OH in a mean of 6.8 months (74.6%)
too long. In addition, no one argues with the fact that a one-time androgen blockade will not cause problems. But I was going to do cycles of HRT every year, and there is no guarantee that the situation will not worsen.

E2 would solve any health related problems of ADT form bicalutamide
Bicalutamide does not have the side effects of ADT associated with a decrease in estradiol levels. If you don't know about it, then I don't know what to talk to you about. I suggest you read wikipedia lol
 
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