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That you have elevated T on Finasteride is normal. How long have you been using Finasteride? Shedding during the first weeks is normal, too.
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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I know but this wasnt a shedding, I whas using finasteride for about 8 months and it whas a complete hell, I had increase Oily skin. High libido. Acne all over my scalp, Red itchy burning scalp, Also developed new body hairs on my shoulder. I whas a norwood 1 for ever and i whas more of a diffuse thinner all over my scalp but once i started finasteride it made my hairline go from norwood 1 to norwood 1.7ish.
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In that case, it seems that you have a rare adverse reaction to the drug. Have you considered trying topical dutasteride or bicalutamide to address the problem locally? RU58841 is something else you may want to consider, although it is weak compared to the first two options.
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I dont know if that will do any good... Am just gonne send it and try DUTA+ Bica or Cypro
I had the same problem as you. Very high, above normal testosterone while taking finasteride/dutasteride.
My test levels were 43nmol/l so 25% above the highest range. Im taking 12.5mg CPA since almost 3 weeks. My test level now is 5nmol/l. My acne is gone, shedding reduced from 300-500 hairs to 50-100 hairs. No regrowth so far.
im still taking dutasteride + finasteride too
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Omg this is giving me some hope. Did you also have more hairloss just being on finasteride?
After 3 years on Finasteride I had huge shedding. Then I tried to add Dutasteride with no succes. Last year was terrible with shedding, 300-500 hairs everyday, lost about 50% density in less than 1 year.
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Hmm So taking CPA with duta or finasteride is there like no chance to get a testosterone spike again? since your using AA
I dont think so. CPA is VERY effective with lowering testosterone.
12.5mg should lower your T at least 70%.
My testosterone decreased by 90% in 2 weeks.
Did you check your testosterone levels while taking finasteride?
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That's to be expected though, right? I believe estrogen improves hair quality even in the absence of androgenic alopecia. Even women with perfectly good hair see thickening during pregnancy, followed by thinning back to around baseline afterwards when estrogen levels drop back down.
Are you still around a NW1 with decent density?
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Yes before finasteride it whas 12 nmol/l and on finasteride 30 nmol.l
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CPA monotherapy? Woohoo! That's how we fix hair issues on this forum. The T of a woman, the E of a man and all we are left with is a cisman deprived of T who is trying to save his hair. Way to go people!
Notice that the person who is recommending you this is the very famous Dr Dar3k with 80 post under his belt on this forum and who has been (and is still, or else why who he be here?) crying for some help with his balding scalp to anyone who wants to listen. You are in extremely good hands.
Notice that the person who is recommending you this is the very famous Dr Dar3k with 80 post under his belt on this forum and who has been (and is still, or else why who he be here?) crying for some help with his balding scalp to anyone who wants to listen. You are in extremely good hands.
Whats wrong with trying it? If it doesnt help with my hair then I can always withdraw after 3 or 4 months. A quarter of a tablet wont kill me.
My T is still in low-normal male levels. 12.5mg is low dose so I dont think Its going to lower my T to female ranges.
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E2 is going to feminize me. I dont want it.
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Why people use oestrogel or E2 injections and not using pills ??Can i use 2 mg estradiol pills for 3 months or is it better the gel?? Explain me please!
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12.5mg daily is what puts you in hrt territory. In fact it has been studied that 12.5mg is all most trans man need for a good castration level. But you are not supposed to read studies to pull out recommendations from your arse on this forum, so don't worry too much about your liability.
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try whatever you want, but do blood tests with your method. People use patch, gel, injections, pellets, pills, etc. As long as you are checking your blood level, you can try pretty much anything that suits you. E2 has a poor half life so injections are more convenient. The peaks and valleys that pills create is not the best to transition and the absortion of patches and gel has been questioned on some people. But that doesn't mean it's you.
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So you are moronically going to kill your gonadal production of T hoping that you will become Fabio. Keep dreaming buddy.
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CPA at 12.5mg ED is not low dose. A Diane 35 pill gets you 2mg of cypro and that's still not low dose. Why people can't do more studies before saying things like that?
Sure, 12.5mg is enough for transwomans but in conjuction with E2.
CPA monotherapy is not going to lower your testosterone levels to FEMALE RANGES, even with high doses. Only CPA + E2 is going to lower testosterone to female ranges so I think that you should do more studies.
Oral CPA has been studied at low dosages of 5 to 20 mg/day as a potential male hormonal contraceptive.[132][133] A dosage of as low as 5 to 10 mg/day oral CPA has been found to suppress circulating testosterone levels in men by 50 to 70%.[134][119][135][136] For comparison with lower dosages, the suppression of circulating testosterone levels in men with a dosage of 100 mg/day oral CPA was 77% and with a dosage of 300 mg/week intramuscular CPA was 76%.[137][138] Dosages of CPA of 12.5 to 25 mg/day have been used as a maintenance dosage for testosterone suppression in men with sexual deviance after initial administration of higher CPA dosages, without recurrence of symptoms.[139][140] CPA is generally able to maximally suppress circulating testosterone levels by 70 to 80% in men.
CPA has been found to be effective in the treatment of acne in males, with marked improvement in symptoms observed at dosages of 25, 50, and 100 mg/day in different studies.[52][53][54][55] It can also halt further progression of scalp hair loss in men.[56][57][58] Increased head hair and decreased body hair has been observed with CPA in men with scalp hair loss.[59][13] In addition, lower dosages of CPA, such as 25 mg/day, have been found to be better-tolerated in men.[54]
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyproterone_acetate
Btw. I dont want to be a Fabio. I just want to stop my hairloss especially on the sides/back of head, so I can wear a hairsystem for a longer time. Maybe I am wrong but I strongly believe that lowering androgens levels at least slow down hairloss. I dont expect regrowth.
Its same as with Finasteride/Dutasteride, this drugs lower DHT levels and a lot of people develop regrowth/stopped hairloss while taking it (unfortunately not me). Its same with CPA, its lowering testosterone as well as DHT so I think Its worth to try if finasteride/dutasteride/minoxidil/RU doesnt work.
Im just trying it... If it wont help, then Im going to withdraw it, I dont see the problem. Each person is different and reacts to something else. One can benefit with healthy diet the other with finasteride only and another one with Cyproterone Acetate and another one with HRT.
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