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Fuchsilein

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Funny, but that dosage is beyond TRT and will result in supraphysiological T values in the vast majority of men — and consequently also elevated DHT
(P or E? Ester weight makes a small but noticeable difference )

Were you taking finasteride with it ?

Not saying you're bullshitting, but while I believe that creatine does raise DHT as well, it's remarkable that it would elevate it more than a decent dosage of test
In terms of doping dosages, it's homeopathic. It was a joke. You probably figured. :) Obviously it was enanthate e5d. Can't do such intervals with propionate. I didn't take Finasteride or anything similar. And because it is so remarkable, I mentioned it.
 

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In terms of doping dosages, it's homeopathic. It was a joke. You probably figured. :) Obviously it was enanthate e5d. Can't do such intervals with propionate. I didn't take Finasteride or anything similar. And because it is so remarkable, I mentioned it.

Right, most people take way too much relative to their goals. Glad I'm off the train

You can, but it's a horrible idea. I sometimes did e3d with P, e4d at most if I was really lazy. Side effects galore of course

And you went from pumped with androgens to now being on HRT? Really experiencing both extremes of the spectrum
 

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Right, most people take way too much relative to their goals. Glad I'm off the train

You can, but it's a horrible idea. I sometimes did e3d with P, e4d at most if I was really lazy. Side effects galore of course

And you went from pumped with androgens to now being on HRT? Really experiencing both extremes of the spectrum
It was a stupid - no, the most stupid - idea I had on how to deal with my gender issues. Thought raising T might fix it. It did not.
 

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Wouldn't call it a dumb idea personally. You were experimenting and being proactive
You say that because you're not trans. Repressing gender dysphoria never works, so it kind of is a dumb idea to try at all; no offense Fuchsilein-I'm pretty sure you'd agree though. If society were more open to the idea of and positive education about trans issues, we wouldn't live in a world where we feel the need to repress rather than express. And the same could be said of cis men. They shouldn't have to repress their emotions because the world says they're not allowed to have them without compromising their masculinity.
 

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It came back relatively quickly albeit my overall sperm count was low for a long time. Perhaps a year.
I eventually got tested and basically had unusually high density of sperm in the liquid but not much liquid.
Then it gradually increased to a normal amount and I still have extremely high density, and also high quality and mobility.

I did not use clomid. But sometimes Maca and Zinc.

Gyno shrank but is still there. Nipples are the same. Thankfully, pre-HRT acne didn't return. Body hair increased. Not to the same level as before but its enough to help hide gyno. I could maybe go swimming.
When you were on HRT, did you experience any gender dysphoria? That is to say, did you experience negative feelings stemming from a subjective sense that your newly acquired feminine features were incompatible with your gender identity? How were you treated by your friends and relatives while on HRT? Your answer to these questions would be greatly appreciated due to the lack of studies/case reports observing the effects of estrogen on cis men.
 

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How were you treated by your friends and relatives while on HRT?
To be honest, this is a stupid question. No one asks you to tell everyone about your treatment, and the changes are invisible to others. I hid from my parents not only the fact of HRT, but also plastic surgery on the face. They noticed changes after the operation, but I said that I did not know what they were about, and they forgot about it over time
The difference is only visible in the photo, but for people who see you every day, the changes are too smooth to be noticed.
 

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Forgot to answer, but didnt give it much time tbh. Even if it worked I had 0 libido and dick only worked with viag/cialis like 70% hard with 0 sperm so it was no go for me. I had sperm on spironolactone and e2 tho.
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200mg/2mg spironolactone/e2
12.5-25mg/2mg cypro/e2
Thank you brother you are my personal doctor! LMAO :D I will try the exact same dosages! :p You also answered another question so cialis/viag are usefull some times!
 

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To be honest, this is a stupid question. No one asks you to tell everyone about your treatment, and the changes are invisible to others. I hid from my parents not only the fact of HRT, but also plastic surgery on the face. They noticed changes after the operation, but I said that I did not know what they were about, and they forgot about it over time
The difference is only visible in the photo, but for people who see you every day, the changes are too smooth to be noticed.
I agree that feminization from HRT is somewhat exaggerated anecdotally because in reality it varies considerably in degree across individuals depending on factors like age, genetics, estradiol dosage, delivery route, and the types of estrogen used. Some people experience significant changes in physical appearance, others experience few if any changes, but I would imagine that most people fall somewhere in between those two extremes. I only asked because I thought the question would be relevant to Bridgeburn, who IIRC was spending time in Asia away from his family during his treatment. I thought it would be reasonable to assume that upon reuniting with his relatives, they were bound to notice and appreciate the physical changes he had undergone since their previous parting.
 

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I agree that feminization from HRT is somewhat exaggerated anecdotally because in reality it varies considerably in degree across individuals depending on factors like age, genetics, estradiol dosage, delivery route, and the types of estrogen used. Some people experience significant changes in physical appearance, others experience few if any changes, but I would imagine that most people fall somewhere in between those two extremes. I only asked because I thought the question would be relevant to Bridgeburn, who IIRC was spending time in Asia away from his family during his treatment. I thought it would be reasonable to assume that upon reuniting with his relatives, they were bound to notice and appreciate the physical changes he had undergone since their previous parting.
Yes, this is an interesting question, everyone has their own experience and their own excuses, lol.
I haven't seen my parents for a long time either. If they notice something upon my arrival, then you can always simply say that you have begun to take better care of your skin. It is not obvious to the people around you that the changes that have happened to you are precisely feminization. A friend who hadn't seen me for a long time just noticed that I began to look younger and said that now I have good skin.
 

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Also guys avoid creatine, at age 16 lost more temple hair than in 6 following years because of it. Even has reversed later without treatment not 100% tho. I think @Fuchsilein said same thing for creatine not sure cant remember now.
Edit: found it, added pic
How do you know it wasn't other factors like just genetics?
Creatine has been proven to not affect hairloss
 

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To be honest, this is a stupid question. No one asks you to tell everyone about your treatment, and the changes are invisible to others. I hid from my parents not only the fact of HRT, but also plastic surgery on the face. They noticed changes after the operation, but I said that I did not know what they were about, and they forgot about it over time
The difference is only visible in the photo, but for people who see you every day, the changes are too smooth to be noticed.
Speaking of stupid questions, what ever happened to Solxama? He seems to have disappeared from the forum.
 

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Speaking of stupid questions, what ever happened to Solxama? He seems to have disappeared from the forum.
I don’t know, I don’t have a telepathic connection with him. I think he was automatically blocked due to complaints, because he recently participated in a dispute with aggressive participants
 

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It came back relatively quickly albeit my overall sperm count was low for a long time. Perhaps a year.
I eventually got tested and basically had unusually high density of sperm in the liquid but not much liquid.
Then it gradually increased to a normal amount and I still have extremely high density, and also high quality and mobility.

I did not use clomid. But sometimes Maca and Zinc.

Gyno shrank but is still there. Nipples are the same. Thankfully, pre-HRT acne didn't return. Body hair increased. Not to the same level as before but its enough to help hide gyno. I could maybe go swimming.
I whas looking at your old pictures before HRT and i noticed that you where also thinning on the sides of your head, Any idea if you have DUPA ? I have been told that people with DUPA have a real small chance in reversing balding. I am almost 100% sure that i have DUPA since my hairloss is more on the side of my head/behind my ear/and also at the back, Really doubting if HRT will do anything for me.

Thankyou!

Oh and also Finasteride did not do anything for me, It actually made me go bald 5X faster
 
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To be honest, this is a stupid question. No one asks you to tell everyone about your treatment, and the changes are invisible to others. I hid from my parents not only the fact of HRT, but also plastic surgery on the face. They noticed changes after the operation, but I said that I did not know what they were about, and they forgot about it over time
The difference is only visible in the photo, but for people who see you every day, the changes are too smooth to be noticed.
Def not my experience. My parents confronted me at one point before I had officially come out and was still boymoding, asking why I was looking more and more feminine and wouldn't let me out of the conversation until I admitted that I was transitioning
 

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Def not my experience. My parents confronted me at one point before I had officially come out and was still boymoding, asking why I was looking more and more feminine and wouldn't let me out of the conversation until I admitted that I was transitioning
I will avoid meeting with relatives. My mother is very attentive and notices a lot, moreover, she never lags behind. Perhaps, if parents cannot relate to something with understanding and think in this way, it is worth breaking ties with them and not regretting it.
Not at all. Much of the rest of my family does though, but my parents choose to believe Tucker Carlson when he says the crazy liberals turned their child into one of them transgenders
I am upset by the right-wing attitude towards transgender people, a very primitive view. I’m right-wing, but I’m okay with transgender people and I don’t think they are all crazy fetishists like Janey. I don't know much about Tucker Carlson. Doesn't he admit the existence of real transgender people? Undoubtedly, some transgender people are misdiagnosed fetishists, but obviously this is not all. It amuses me to be called leftist just because I don't want to burn transgender and gay and consider them full-fledged people.
 

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I don't know much about Tucker Carlson. Doesn't he admit the existence of real transgender people?
Not sure I've seen that side of him as he routinely has guests on like he did just a few nights ago that say things like "you can't be a Christian and think you're a different gender. What's next, thinking you're a dog?"
 
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