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If i start losing it again im going straight back to HRT lol so far 10 months on dutasterideHair looks great.The only thing you take now is out? Are you afraid. Of losingg hair again?
If i start losing it again im going straight back to HRT lol so far 10 months on dutasterideHair looks great.The only thing you take now is out? Are you afraid. Of losingg hair again?
I hear you!! Looks great!!If i start losing it again im going straight back to HRT lol so far 10 months on dutasteride
What was your original Norwood/type of hair loss? And how long did it take for HRT to bring you to what you currently are?If i start losing it again im going straight back to HRT lol so far 10 months on dutasteride
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Diffusing in NW6 pattern
HRT for 7 months fixed it all
50mg cpa + 6mg etrofem sublingual + 0.5mg dutasteride
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Diffusing in NW6 pattern
HRT for 7 months fixed it all
50mg cpa + 6mg etrofem sublingual + 0.5mg dutasteride
I have no words to thank you, it's people like you who make the internet better, thank you I hope to be able to help one day too, I will consider mixing the estrogens I will research a little about this but Its good idea , I started spironolactone a 3 days ago, I have the vertigo to get up my heart seems faster, i'm feeling anxious it may also have to do with the level of cortisol that spironolactone increases, thanks for talking about the effects of MPA i will judge what is better for me, the purpose of feminization is not a problem , i like make me feel young, its not a problem the problem are the collateral injuries , as i am feeling now with spironolactone, i didn’t feel any side effects with just estrogen, can you tell me a little about your sexual desire janey, i know you’re trans, and i ask exactly , how is sexual desire after a few years of exposure?I take something called medroxyprogesterone acetate or provera at 10 mg that lowers testosterone but I felt absolutely no negative sides while I had serious and persistent sides on spironolactone. It's not clear exactly what the purposes of AA's are compared with just taking more E2. MPA works differently than the major three AA's including their analogues among the 'mides. Instead of blocking male receptors, MPA effectuates its effects more so by greatly lowering testosterone. MPA is valuable because it can be taken orally whereas progesterone tends not to make it though the liver, hence the Dr. Powers' crowd using progesterone soft gels rectally which makes a horrible mess.
E2-only, except for feminization which is necessary at least for the scalp to experience hair regrowth appears to have no negative side effects except for the one's that MtF's want. With me, after going off spironolactone, I saw an immediate return to form in terms of strength as spironolactone greatly weakened me, much more so than estrogen. It made me sweat, causes fatigue for many and many claim dulled thought processes on spironolactone. Some folks seem to tolerate it but I sure didn't. I blame it for a horrible shed to baldness whereas estrogen alone might have improved hair without a shed.
E2-only is a reaction to the fact that AA's are unneeded for most now that liver-safe forms of estrogen are available. The best rule of thumb for avoiding breast growth is to not mimic cis-female adolescent amounts of estrogen, starting at ~12 years. Some people seem to feminize quickly in 18 months or less while others can have a second puberty of up to ~8 years, comparable to 12 to 20 of puberty for cis-females. Some of the successful have used more than one type of estrogen or mixed ethiny estradiol with pure E2 or mixed conjugated equine estrogens, or CEE's.
Based upon my experiences with spironolactone, yes, AA's are more likely to lead to penile dysfunction by taking away all sexual desire. After a short period of time if someone hasn't been promoting or experiencing daily erections, the penis can become erectile dysfunctional and size and girth can be lost in the flaccid state. It all appears reversible for those not following the orchiectomy path so no penile size is permanently lost. Viable sperm can be regained at some point helped by things like clomid. There are also Serms for the folks who want a more complicated path to avoid breast growth.
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Diffusing in NW6 pattern
HRT for 7 months fixed it all
50mg cpa + 6mg etrofem sublingual + 0.5mg dutasteride
It seems that 50mg of cypro is pretty effective at achieving regrowth, going by Noah and Bridgeburn's results. How does medroxyprogesterone acetate differ from cypro? are the side effects different, and is it a similar mechanism of action?I take something called medroxyprogesterone acetate or provera at 10 mg that lowers testosterone but I felt absolutely no negative sides while I had serious and persistent sides on spironolactone. It's not clear exactly what the purposes of AA's are compared with just taking more E2. MPA works differently than the major three AA's including their analogues among the 'mides. Instead of blocking male receptors, MPA effectuates its effects more so by greatly lowering testosterone. MPA is valuable because it can be taken orally whereas progesterone tends not to make it though the liver, hence the Dr. Powers' crowd using progesterone soft gels rectally which makes a horrible mess.
E2-only, except for feminization which is necessary at least for the scalp to experience hair regrowth appears to have no negative side effects except for the one's that MtF's want. With me, after going off spironolactone, I saw an immediate return to form in terms of strength as spironolactone greatly weakened me, much more so than estrogen. It made me sweat, causes fatigue for many and many claim dulled thought processes on spironolactone. Some folks seem to tolerate it but I sure didn't. I blame it for a horrible shed to baldness whereas estrogen alone might have improved hair without a shed.
E2-only is a reaction to the fact that AA's are unneeded for most now that liver-safe forms of estrogen are available. The best rule of thumb for avoiding breast growth is to not mimic cis-female adolescent amounts of estrogen, starting at ~12 years. Some people seem to feminize quickly in 18 months or less while others can have a second puberty of up to ~8 years, comparable to 12 to 20 of puberty for cis-females. Some of the successful have used more than one type of estrogen or mixed ethiny estradiol with pure E2 or mixed conjugated equine estrogens, or CEE's.
Based upon my experiences with spironolactone, yes, AA's are more likely to lead to penile dysfunction by taking away all sexual desire. After a short period of time if someone hasn't been promoting or experiencing daily erections, the penis can become erectile dysfunctional and size and girth can be lost in the flaccid state. It all appears reversible for those not following the orchiectomy path so no penile size is permanently lost. Viable sperm can be regained at some point helped by things like clomid. There are also Serms for the folks who want a more complicated path to avoid breast growth.
Do know that sides from CPA aren't to be taken lightly. I took 12.5mg daily for a week. I had headaches, an instance of vertigo, and felt like I had water in my left ear for about a month. Dropped down to 6.25mg and was just to worried about the documented risks. This was just in a 2 week time-span. Not trying to scare anybody, I guess I was just super sensitive to it.I am seriously thinking about starting CPA 12.5mg , I already bought it, spironolactone is giving me palpitation and stress, and the possibility of sodium / potassium electrolyte disturbances frightens me, spironolactone will inhibit aldosterone, which is also the main reason for side effects, I will mature the CPA idea this week , is a serious thing.
when I start, I will start 12.5mg every 3 days, in the first week, and increase as if it were a corticosteroid (pyramid efect), I will see how my body reacts.Do know that sides from CPA aren't to be taken lightly. I took 12.5mg daily for a week. I had headaches, an instance of vertigo, and felt like I had water in my left ear for about a month. Dropped down to 6.25mg and was just to worried about the documented risks. This was just in a 2 week time-span. Not trying to scare anybody, I guess I was just super sensitive to it.
I originally decided to take a step up from finasteride at an attempt for regrowth because after a year on dutasteride my hairline and temples were becoming thin and see through. My finasteride gains deteriorated, and I figured a year was long enough to assess the results, it was a terrible experience. My coworker had even commented that my temples were thinning.
I speculate just like many others that the spike in scalp testosterone still had a big impact on my hair. Dutasteride isn't for everyone I guess.
I'm now on 12.5mg bica, estrogel, 1mg finasteride, and minoxidil. My hairline thickened up again and has gotten better for sure. I feel way better side effect wise than CPA. But I went from having a super high sex drive to not feeling the need to masturbate everyday, which I kind of wanted so I could become more productive. It does still work down there. I also had very slight hard gyno tissue forming, so I have to mess with this dose a bit.
The gyno did weird me out so I took a break for a month and it went away. I think it was caused by too much estradiol, I was using something like 1.25mg in the estrogel. I'm going to keep trying a conservative approach and see if I can minimize the unwanted effects.
It's difficult to know what side effects are as a result of androgen deprivation when researching anti androgens, as most of the time they're developed for use by men with prostate cancer. I guess you have to separate the generic weight gain, hot flushes, osteoporosis, brain fog and other symptoms of low sex hormone.I will try to work up a bit more about medroxyprogesterone which MtFs usually use for final breast development, along with regular progesterone for those who don't mind about rectal administration. There's not much evidence that MPA "finishes" breast growth but many use it "just in case". MPA has also been used similarly to the main three AA's but I am unable to identify any negative side-effects at all about MPA. I
Hello my friend, I hope I can help.Lots of people seem to have had success on Cyproterone Acetate, for me it was like a sugar pill. I was taking 50mg monotherapy at one point in time and it felt like I was on nothing. Out of pure curiosity I should've gotten my T levels checked to see what was going on. I'll never understand why I seem to be so insensitive to treatment.