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Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by bridgeburn, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. nWo Wolfpac

    nWo Wolfpac Established Member My Regimen

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    It might work but it probably isn't enough on it's own. Maybe it will work if you double or triple the dose. I actually started with that stuff. I used it for a month before I got impatient and switched to stronger stuff. I didn't see any results but I was on it too short a time to really judge.
     
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    nWo Wolfpac Established Member My Regimen

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    It sounds to me like you know what your doing and I agree you probably need a high dose. My hair was pretty much as thin as bridges but my hairline was much stronger. Always been a Norwood 1. Good luck to you by the way I really hope everything works out for you and your health.
     
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  3. Ikarus

    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    How long does a tube of estrogel last?
     
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    Jonny Craig Established Member

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    Thanks dude.

    It didnt hurt your hair at least heh?
     
  5. Ikarus

    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    That’s similar to me. I am a NW1.5 but I have severe diffuse thinning. I would put myself on the Ludwig scale, since it’s more similar to that pattern.
     
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  6. nWo Wolfpac

    nWo Wolfpac Established Member My Regimen

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    It should last a month on a small dose which would be 2.5 mg of estrogel. That amount of gel will contain 1.5 mg of Estradiol.


    I don't think so.
     
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    Stephen788 Established Member My Regimen

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    How comes you are quitting spironolactone?
    Is there any particular reason.
     
  8. Ikarus

    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    It’s mainly because of the nausea, and tiredness. And, because it’s such a weak anti-androgen.
     
  9. hopeforhappiness

    hopeforhappiness Established Member My Regimen

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    I’m sure this question has been answered in the forum but I can’t seem to find it :( Also for as long as I’ve been following this thread it just seems to be a generally safe place for people willing to go the distance/take real risks to cure their hair loss. I’ve also gotten lots of help from bridge and others thru DM so I feel okay asking a question here.

    **After surgery to remove glands that cause gynecomastia can it still return ????**I’ve been on a number of regimens and some have helped but i keep quitting due to feminizing effects or fear of. I have the will power I just don’t want breasts. I’m finally in a place where I can afford the 6 or so thousand dollars for the surgery in a few months. Can I just pay for the surgery and then get back on the drugs without the same worry ? Any help is appreciated.
     
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    baldingAF Established Member My Regimen

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    How possible do you guys think it is to get ANY regrowth by just carefully amping up estrogen and not touching DHT/T levels.....

    seems unrealistic but got I want @bridgeburn 's gains.

    I have just ordered some dexamethasone (thoughts on that?) to increase aromatase activity cause I feel like thats one of the most important
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9284093

    My current approach is trying to go for the androgen receptor with Fisetin and Baicalin in a oil-in-water transdermal cream with a bunch of other stuff

    Fisetin:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18922931
    Baicalin:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24496985
     
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  11. Derelict

    Derelict Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I haven't had the same sides as you, no tiredness or nausea, 1 month 7 days in, my libido is lower and my nipples are still sensitive though. Obviously not seeing any results yet but im hopeful, read good things about spironolactone working for some people. I will consider a stronger regimen in 5 months time if i don't see any results.
     
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    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    I am definitely an unusual case; I don’t believe most people will experience nausea and tiredness. I do believe spironolactone will most likely work for you, especially when combined with dutasteride. I have seen multiple threads of people using that combination and experiencing fantastic results.

    Have you noticed changes in your skin? Has it become softer and smoother?
     
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    Derelict Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I think i have noticed a difference in my skin, but i tend to take good care of my skin(retin-a, good moisturizers etc) but i think there is a difference. Yeah some of the threads i have seen about dutasteride and spironolactone people seem to get amazing results, im mostly worried about my crown, my hairline isn't too bad, and hairline is harder to get back than your crown so im hopeful to get some regrowth in the coming months. Regimen is dutasteride 0.5mg ed, 20mg minoxidil at night, thinking of bumping this up to 25mg once i run out of 10mg pills and just using 0.5ml of the kirkland liquid orally, works out much cheaper and of course 200mg of spironolactone, just got to hope and pray it's enough now lol
     
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    Marky Senior Member My Regimen

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    were you getting gyno even at 1-2mg E gel?
     
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    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    generally no. There might be a tiny amount of glandular tissue that the surgeon leaves which can get puffy, but it cannot develop nearly to the same extant as it would without the surgery.
     
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    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    That doesn't make sense because estrogen decreases DHT and T.
     
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    bridgeburn Senior Member My Regimen

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    my hair is growing longer

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    hopeforhappiness Established Member My Regimen

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    Looks good. Considering where you started I can’t believe you’re at a point where you can expose your hairline and grow it out. Do you feel like you’re becoming more and more of an ideal version of your physical self ?

    You’re also lucky to have facial hair. It’s a good balance of feminine and masculine you have going on.
     
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    Marky Senior Member My Regimen

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    Agreed at that high of E and other AA it's amazing you have facial hair
     
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    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    Your skin is so clear... And your hair is looking better than ever! I hope I can get your type of results, so I can finally enjoy a middle parting :confused:
     
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