Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[SavingMyHair]

After 3 and a half month, I'm having massive shedding on Een Injections, bicalutamide and dutas.... Things were going good but now this shed out of nowhere.

 

[Almas_NW0]

It will kill me in the end, or turn me into a woman

HRT cannot kill you. You can stay on it all your life, but you will have to endure side effects in the form of an increased amount of fat and feminization

And don't forget huge amount of cash...

$1,300 for breast removal surgery. Injectable estradiol itself is cheap.

 

[Almas_NW0]

After 3 and a half month, I'm having massive shedding on Een Injections, bicalutamide and dutas.... Things were going good but now this shed out of nowhere.

As far as I know your levels are too low so telogen hair loss is not surprising. 150-250pg/ml — minimum

 

[likemike]

Because sitting on high E all my life is not an option. It will kill me in the end, or turn me into a woman.
The goal is to keep my E intake to a minimum, but still keep my hair. Bridgeburn knew this, he was able to get off E and still keep his hair,.
I'm also trying to compensate for the reduction in EV with non hormonal remedies. But I'm not successful yet.
HRT is not a life, but a way to get hair back for the totally desperate.

I understand.. Good luck.

If you failed, you can get back to HRT to save your hair

 

[Get my hair back]

I understand.. Good luck.

If you failed, you can get back to HRT to save your hair

Yes, there is always a choice

 

[SavingMyHair]

As far as I know your levels are too low so telogen hair loss is not surprising. 150-250pg/ml — minimum

No, my levels are at 300 pg/ml at the end of the 7th day cycle so not low at all.

 

[NewHope]

From the reports I've found, RU in a jar of topical minoxidil doesn't seem like a good idea.

Please, does anyone have the RU contact with the most affordable price to pass me by here or privately?
I want to start my experience with RU

As far as I know Sabrina is suspended from activities, and the contact that had been inserted a few pages ago was deleted from the post by @dani500

Thanks

 

[Almas_NW0]

From the reports I've found, RU in a jar of topical minoxidil doesn't seem like a good idea.

Please, does anyone have the RU contact with the most affordable price to pass me by here or privately?
I want to start my experience with RU

As far as I know Sabrina is suspended from activities, and the contact that had been inserted a few pages ago was deleted from the post by @dani500

Thanks

RU is sold on Aliexpress. I suspect that buying it more expensive is a waste of money

 

[Almas_NW0]

Has anyone compared HRT without Minoxidil and with Minoxidil? My thinning hair is not regaining its thickness and structure. Either it will never happen, or it will happen very slowly.

My guess is that miniaturization is a partially irreversible process as the miniaturized follicles move closer to the surface of the scalp, possibly losing access to nutrition.
Due to changes in the structure of the hair, I can not do hair, the hair just falls on my forehead.

 

[SavingMyHair]

Has anyone compared HRT without Minoxidil and with Minoxidil? My thinning hair is not regaining its thickness and structure. Either it will never happen, or it will happen very slowly.

My guess is that miniaturization is a partially irreversible process as the miniaturized follicles move closer to the surface of the scalp, possibly losing access to nutrition.
Due to changes in the structure of the hair, I can not do hair, the hair just falls on my forehead.

All I can say is that I used oral minoxidil before HRT and I still using it after 10 months on HRT and my hair is still fucked up regardless. As you said, I also think miniaturization is partially irreversible, hair will still feel thin and fried even if you manage to ''recover'' it.

 

[NewHope]

RU is sold on Aliexpress. I suspect that buying it more expensive is a waste of money

The prices offered on sites like aliespress among others are very disproportionate to the RU price of the most well-known laboratories,
But $120 for 10gr is not possible for me

I'm afraid of buying fake RU, a supplier with reference would be ideal to start

 

[Almas_NW0]

All I can say is that I used oral minoxidil before HRT and I still using it after 10 months on HRT and my hair is still fucked up regardless. As you said, I also think miniaturization is partially irreversible, hair will still feel thin and fried even if you manage to ''recover'' it.

I have been on HRT for 2 years, and I can confirm this: the texture of the hair does not change in any way. Only their length and coverage area change. But hair of this quality is of little use
What norwood do you have? I started when I was Norwood 1. I thought early treatment would help achieve the ideal, but no

 

[SavingMyHair]

I have been on HRT for 2 years, and I can confirm this: the texture of the hair does not change in any way. Only their length and coverage area change. But hair of this quality is of little use
What norwood do you have? I started when I was Norwood 1. I thought early treatment would help achieve the ideal, but no

I agree texture is more important than almost everything else. I was NW1.5-NW2 when I started but my main problem was the f*****g diffuse thinning that has never resolved no matter what I do. Even with Een injections weekly + bica daily + dutas every other day + oral minoxidil, I can't get my density back or improve the hair texture....

 

[Almas_NW0]

I agree texture is more important than almost everything else. I was NW1.5-NW2 when I started but my main problem was the f*****g diffuse thinning that has never resolved no matter what I do. Even with Een injections weekly + bica daily + dutas every other day + oral minoxidil, I can't get my density back or improve the hair texture....

At least we stopped progression. I will wait further and see if the quality of the hair changes over the years.
The irony is that I'm already a Norwood 0, my hairline is perfect but the hair quality is so crappy I'm not happy about it.

 

[likemike]

At least we stopped progression. I will wait further and see if the quality of the hair changes over the years.
The irony is that I'm already a Norwood 0, my hairline is perfect but the hair quality is so crappy I'm not happy about it.

Jod or other stuff that are missing?

 

[Almas_NW0]

Jod

It has nothing to do with miniaturization. Vitamins, iodine do not work. I believe there is no cure for follicle regeneration. I thought it was estradiol, but I was wrong: its effect is too weak, like the effect of minoxidil
Unfortunately, I do not have a medical education to talk about what the follicles may lack in order to fully recover. But I know that what we need has not yet been invented.

 

[SavingMyHair]

At least we stopped progression. I will wait further and see if the quality of the hair changes over the years.
The irony is that I'm already a Norwood 0, my hairline is perfect but the hair quality is so crappy I'm not happy about it.

Well, U might have but I def didnt stop anything. Keep shedding lot of miniaturized hairs.

 

[SavingMyHair]

It has nothing to do with miniaturization. Vitamins, iodine do not work. I believe there is no cure for follicle regeneration. I thought it was estradiol, but I was wrong: its effect is too weak, like the effect of minoxidil
Unfortunately, I do not have a medical education to talk about what the follicles may lack in order to fully recover. But I know that what we need has not yet been invented.

Yeah I agree. U can stop further lost in the beat scenario and regrow, but what about texture? That will never be solved with AA, estradiol or even AR destruction.... Idk what could regenerate the texture tho.

 

[likemike]

It has nothing to do with miniaturization. Vitamins, iodine do not work. I believe there is no cure for follicle regeneration. I thought it was estradiol, but I was wrong: its effect is too weak, like the effect of minoxidil
Unfortunately, I do not have a medical education to talk about what the follicles may lack in order to fully recover. But I know that what we need has not yet been invented.

HGH and E2?

I have the same problem... Hair quantity is good but quality is worst

 

[Almas_NW0]

HGH and E2?

Everything is useless

I have the same problem... Hair quantity is good but quality is worst

This is a typical problem. I first read about this from an old Ikarus user. He also said that his growth line is not restored, referring to the quality of the hair.
How long have you been on HRT and what stage of Norwood did you have? I was Norwood 1 and in 2 years the quality of my hair hasn't changed. The quantity has increased, but the quality is absolutely the same, and this makes me despair.