LewdBear said:
Hoppi said:
I reckon there's a pattern though, you know? I reckon you could trace it. It IS genetic yes, but it does just seem to have triggers, such as stress, B12 deficiency etc etc, as well as the obvious ones like age (for example my hair was perfect until about 4 months ago or less).
As for apes and stuff going bald, they were probably just genetically disposed to it, pure and simple, it probably hit them mostly at a certain age, just like it does in humans. Don't you think?
Yes, that's the point I'm trying to make.
Why do you believe it's possible for male pattern baldness to be a "pure and simple" genetic problem for apes, but not for humans?
It is for us too. But I just think if I hadn't got so stressed out or battered my body with carbs and sugar, and had done more exercise, this probably wouldn't have happened until I was about 35 (or who knows maybe 65!!).
Whatever, I mean it's happened now so it makes little difference ._.
I just need to make sure I don't flood my follicles too much MORE.
I reckon people who do lots of weight training have a habit of raising their testosterone levels too high, which can cause hair loss if you're genetically disposed to it.
I dunno these are just my theories, like I say it makes little difference because we've all got it now anyway! lol
s.a.f said:
He still has'nt got it guys, now he's after the perfect supplements to 'save his hair'.
lol well you can keep not listening to me if you want, but you are completely, COMPLETELY missing my points and I just think you must be doing it intentionally at this point
Ok let me just clear another thing up too. I think there are at least three factors affecting your hair follicles once male pattern baldness is initiated. There's the amount of DHT that is flooding them. There's the amount of sebum that is collecting in and around them and hindering their growth. And there is the overall "health" of the follicle. A healthy follicle will last longer than an unhealthy one, in the same way a healthy person is more likely to fight off the flu or any infection. Too much sebum accumulates DHT and probably 5ar making life difficult for the follicle, and probably gets bacteria in it too. It also makes life difficult for hairs trying to fight their way through the scalp. What is wrong therefore with taking finasteride, Dutas, Saw Palmetto, Ket or whateeeever you want to lower your DHT levels systemically or topically (the choice is your own on this, I'm not arguing which is better unless you want to talk SCIENCE and not conjecture), reducing and regulating your sebum by washing your hair regularly and ensuring your body has enough coenzyme A (this seems to be best for balancing sebum) and enriching your follicle with vitamins, nutrients and a good blood supply so it can be strong and more likely to sprout good, thick hair? I don't get the problem. You seem to think just because I'm choosing SP over Finasteride like I am making some huge deviation from your way of thinking, when in fact they both just lower 5ar levels systemically.
cleverusername said:
treeshrew said:
the guy above me is a jerk. come join you in the gym? ok, whatever you say meathead. by the way, learn to spell "loser". nice bud.
but Hoppi, you ain't gunna win this one brother, let it go!
Haha yea he got bit riled up didn't he.
As for the diet/lifestyle argument. I do think eating a high fat diet can exacerbate things but eating healthy and exercising will at best marginally slow your hair loss down. The only thing that ever grew my hair back was using minoxidil with nizoral. Finasteride never seemed to do much for me. If you don't use these you WILL continue to lose your hair. I've found that out myself the hard way.
yeah I know, I know, I'm not arguing against that, even though a few people seem to think I still am. Originally I was, but I have learnt a lot in the past week or so as I've only noticed myself losing some hair very recently and it's had to be a quick learning curve.
And seaback there's no need to get all annoyed and defensive at me, I wasn't saying EVERYONE who is losing hair young did anything to cause it. It can also be triggered by age, which was probably the case for many, many people. In fact, it's probably the case for MOST people. Doesn't mean it can't or doesn't have other triggers.
For you, it may well have been age, I don't know, I barely know you. Why do you have to get all personal about one person's broad, theoretical, observational science that has no direction at you whatsoever?