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Decreased libido: No it's not a myth, not a lie, not an illusion and not psychogenic

Discussion in 'Growth Stimulants - Rogaine, Minoxidil, Tricomin,' started by MagnumJoe, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. tony had

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    Nobody asked for your useless opinion. You are a nobody. And i? I am a certified clinical research professional with 7 years of experience....a member of SOCRA....you are a nothing...you and yitti monkey have nothing better to do than bash peoples claims of adverse events that seem to have very plausible causation from a drug they took.....and is consistent with hundreds of other claims from other people. Such evil could only stem from a geek with nothing better to do in their life who gets satisfaction from this or from a lobbyist who works for big pharma. Causality of an adverse event from minoxidil can be either "not related" "unlikely" "possibly" "probably" "definitely"....a doctor who is responsible for choosing one of these attributions could never assign "not related" simply based on the fact that the mechanism of action of this drug is UNKNOWN. Thanks. Now please fuck off forever. You are banned from this forum.
     
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    JeanLucBB Senior Member My Regimen

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    I genuinely pray someone as criminally stupid as yourself hasn't landed a single dime in clinical research money in your entire life. Might explain why a cure for baldness and other diseases takes so long though.
     
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    Your headaches could have been caused by anything. If you stopped minoxidil and it went away...in addition to the fact that its a common side effect, then its most likely the minoxidil sure. The side effect profile of a drug is not limited to the successful clinical trials that the drug company used to get FDA approval. That is why you hear about drugs being pulled off the market due to bad side effects. Yes sure i can see young people getting ED...but complete loss of libido out of nowhere that happens to coincide with rogaine usage and hundreds of other complaints of the same nature....is not a coincidence
     
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    Dumb... very dumb. You say that it's "not a coincidence", with surety, right after saying "causality of an adverse event from minoxidil can be either "not related" "unlikely" "possibly" "probably" "definitely". You were right the first time, it could be any of those.

    Indeed, wise JeanLucBB.
     
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    Given that there is no other possible cause that i can think of except rogaine usage and that there are hundreds of other healthy people who have never had libido issues and should not spontaneously develop libido issues out of nowhere...and given the fact that the possibility cannot be ruled out...and finally given the fact that all the doctors i have seen have told me ITS POSSIBLE...and UNLIKEY but never DIMISSED as NOT RELATED leads ME to believe its related...everyone knows themself better than anyone
     
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    I hope you all die the most painful deaths
     
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    The fact of the matter is yitti dickhead....2 people on this board are overwhelmingly more qualified than you about this topic...and both are certain that minoxidil is the cause of their lack of sexual interest, yet you and your pathetic troll friends who seem to have nothing better to do all day then troll hair loss forums and bash people who are concerned about their well being and safety.....are very keen on maintaining the status quo...i dont know what your motives are...as i said before, you are probably either huge loser/nobodys...or work for the pharma lobbies.
     
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    just a question... cause i dont really believe this but il ask!

    What is in minoxidil that could cause ED? i honestly don't understand!

    Would like to add iv been on this stuff for over a year with no issues with ED!
     
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    lel
     
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    FutureSaitama Experienced Member My Regimen

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    This thread gave me ED
     
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    dude... dude... you really need to take a chill pill and relax. wishing for peoples painful deaths and freaking out like this is not an appropriate reaction here. i wish immortality for all of us.

    you posted that you have ED from minoxidil. i and a lot of my "troll friends" have an interest in challenging this, as

    1. we are also taking the drug and do have some experience with it and do know something about it.

    2. although the exact mechanism of the drug isnt perfectly understood, of course its not a complete mystery, and theres nothing currently known about it that suggests it could be a primary cause of ED... not only ED, but what youre suggesting is a hardcore post-minoxidil ED syndrome that lasts several months.

    3. again, coorelation does not mean causation. if 50 people eat a hot dog next monday and get a headache, does that mean the hot dogs caused it? maybe... but 100000 people will also get a headache next monday who did not eat a hot dog. ED is very, very common. so is taking minoxidil. you seem to think that ED will usually or always have an obvious cause. thats absolutely not the case. it comes and goes. and if a person thinks for a second something like "i think i got it from this drug and oh my God maybe it wont go away" then for sure something like that can itself become a cause. worrying about ED becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

    now maybe you want to bug out again, reading this. and say i am a nobody, everyone is a troll, etc. but theres nothing malicious in saying it, at all. in fact it could be helpful if youd chill out. heres a thread in which i said exactly the same thing to another guy and his reaction was absolutely different. i told him that its probably performance anxiety and by the end of the thread he is thanking me profusely for actually curing his ED.
    https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...effects-of-finasteride-plz-help-me-out.95388/
    "Thank u soooooo much yetti"

    ok, youre convinced that this isnt you and its definitely from the drug. thats fine, but it doesnt mean other people have no right to question and discuss it. this is not a conversation with your doctor, its a public discussion forum with a bunch of people taking the same drug who have been talking about it for years. so if you post something and then call people trolls and nobodys at the first inkling of debate about your premise, then you can expect the reception you got. a better reaction would be to ignore it or engage in debate if you are convinved otherwise, or perhaps even consider it.
     
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    Calm down, it is not up to you.
     
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    I didn't really lose horniness after I started Rogaine, but I did lose some erection quality. I'm sure it's rare but it definitely happened. I was not using anything else. Nine years later I'm in the process of weaning off of it, partly to know for sure if that's the cause.
     
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    I had the same issue with minoxidil. I didn't lose sexual desire but I lost erections quality. When I tried finding out what the deal was I came across a Doctor that said with increase in blood flow it causes some muscle that seals in the blood of your erection to not function properly. Don't know if it was BS or not but it made sense. As soon as I stopped I felt better, but didn't get back to 100% for about 3-4 weeks.
     
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    I used Minoxidil for 3 months. It caused complete loss of libido, smaller penis, erectile dysfunction, and less pleasurable orgasm, even 4 months after stopping. I have also been taking venlafaxine 75 mg for about 12 years without any symptoms. Venlafaxine is known to cause sexual issues in some people, but i never had that experience. Furthermore, i am on a sub-therapeutic dose that does not typically cause sexual issues. There is no doubt that minoxidil caused this. I recently saw an endocrinologist who confirms that minoxidil is the cause. He thinks that it has suppressed my androgen receptors (as per the science paper produced by Taiwan in 2014 titled "Minoxidil may suppress androgen-receptor related functions"), which is why all my hormone tests are normal. He said there is no test that can be done for androgen receptors and no treatment either...the only thing that can be done is to stop the drug and wait for recovery...he said "it may take more than few months (to recover)". He did say that it is a rare side effect. There have been some 30 FDA reports but the FDA has not taken any action, apparently only one or 2 reports have to be well documented with accurate and complete information, and also, minoxidil should be the found to be definitely related based on the submission. It appears as if the FDA reports submitted thus far have been sloppy, incomplete, unclear, or lacking enough proof to determine that minoxidil was the sole cause...that is why this side effect has not been officially acknowledged. I urge those with the same condition living in the USA to submit a report online- "google FDA medwatch>>report a problem>>>"consumer/patient". Those living in Canada- "google Adverse Drug Report Canada>>>select reporting by consumers and health professionals". Similarly, all first world countries have a regulatory body (the govt) that consumers can report side effcts from drugs/medical devices.. I know in Canada that doctors are not required to do so on behalf of their patients. Many doctors would probably not do this since they are busy and it requires a lot of time, especially if the information has to be complete and accurate. I submitted a report to the FDA myself.
     
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    I completely agree, your symptoms are exactly like mine, in fact I have been referred out to an endocrinologist. Having read this article, I have just stopped the monoxidil and will report back with the results.
     
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    Maybe u just turned gay and can't do it with women anymore?
     
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    Hey Guys

    I would love to share my current scenario and situation on this matter. Im 33 this year and i have been using minoxidil since 29.

    I keep fit, swim, gym about 4 days/week, ocasional drinker, and lifestyle is above average than my peers. I have amazing sex drive (above average) i would say and i have been diligently and religiously only have been using my Regro 5% since 29. That's a total of 3 years.

    I have tried propecia in 2015 and within 3 weeks although amazing hair growth and thickness, i had loss of libido, no morning erection and all the other effects we already know. I stopped and i recovered after 2 months or so.

    My Regime now is only: Minoxidil 5% & Laser Helmet

    Since December 2017, i have been having erection issues again, loss of libido, very noticeable water retention, loss of sex drive, watery semen(ejaculation) and i am totally clueless (almost Propecia effect but i have not taken them ever since)

    I checked every supplement in my kitchen and nothing would indicate why i loss my drive. Depression & Anxiety kicked in because whenever i see a curve on women, it doesn't give me the drive to go WoW like how it used to. Imma wolf in the women department cause i would approach any curvy women when i see one and that's the drive that excites me.

    Sadly, in december i had my first flaccid penis situation with a new chick when i was about to have sex and it just didn't go up. Depression kicked in afterwards.

    I waited no more and consulted two urologist. I did my Testosterone Test It is within the range & soon to do my Free Test and SBGH as well end of February 2018. I didn't take the first urologist into consideration because he did not take my situation seriously due to the age. He kept saying that my body will recover fast & im only 33 and fit.

    However, the second urologist took me seriously asked me to bring over all the items i apply or consume and he asked me to stop all supplements for 2 weeks from MACA, Multivits, Ginko and most importantly that caught his eye and raised my curiosity and his concern was the MINOXIDIL too.

    He says, minoxidil does affect libido and brings down to sperm count in some men but it accumulates in months or years and not overnight. It does give water retention and may interfere with other medications such as iron or iodine if you're on them.

    I am no expert in this matter and all im doing is to hold my hair. I have decent hair after a good Hair Transplant and i am NOT ON PROPECIA.

    Im only on the next two FDA approved hair loss method


    I have been asked to stop minoxidil and all supplements for two weeks and to return to him early MARCH. I will update this thread again, if at all Minoxidil affects me and im hoping that my morning steel & drive comes back.

    Fingers Crossed
     
  19. AnxiousAndy

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    I don't understand why people care about libido? If anything it's a nuisance and a primitive instinct. Low libido is the least of my worries, in fact I welcome it. Thanks for the warning but I don't think anybody cares. Also minoxidil doesn't cause decreased libido ;)
     
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    It would be interesting to see your next test results. Post if you care to share. Also, they should test estradiol levels and progesterone.
     

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