Discussion in 'Antiandrogens - Propecia, Dutasteride, etc.' started by JLF, May 4, 2017.
You on seti yet mate? I’m in the gb but I wanna get my hands on some pge2 alsl
No I'm not, but I don't know if it makes sense to buy the oral version at all - it's super fucking expensive and even I drop my entire paycheck on 200 grams right now, what do I do after a mere 100 days when it runs out. Ya know? I'd prefer the topical version as the quantities are far more sensible, I dunno what the group buy will do in the end.
Thinking it might actually make more sense to buy PGE2. PGD2 can be reduced in quite a few ways but they ALL also reduce PGE2. So you're gonna need exogenous PGE2 damn near every way you go.
I agree. I’m teying to get my hands on some pge2.
strangely ......as alebaba stated use topical seti at 20% instead of oral ...... have to say hes getting results that way. also pmd you whatver - which type of seti hasn't been decided yet, we may be able to get some of both if a supplier is chosen who makes both.....
may i ask....whats this regards the % issues of the daro.....? sorry to chime in but can you confirm its not pure? obviously your man..... hes on the supp list
good morrow my lords
86%?? the other 14% contaminants could be anything, there's a probability that variable is causing the shedding...... heavy metals solvent residues..... get a confirmation on that 86%... surely its wrong.....??? Because if that test is correct... i couldn't' vouch/ push for that supplier any longer - can you let us know? Sorry i know you lot have enough on your plate....
Back in August when I started Enza it worked really well for about 2 months then stopped slowly over time. This seems to be common with anti androgen receptor competitors.
Yeah man it’s dodgey af. I’m planning on dropping it I think when I’m done with this batch.
With regards to the seti - I’ve read everywhere that the topical version really needs to be salted, so it might be worth confirming with everyone what the consensus in re administration of seti.
I’m happy to use it topically because it works it cheaper that way also.
Yeah after some time they make androgen receptors more sensitive ... like Bicalutamide (it's well known).
Darolutamide, Enzalutamide ... cannot work in a long term use .........
"Prolonged treatment with bicalutamide induces androgen receptor overexpression and androgen hypersensitivity."
My hair is worse than ever.
How the fuck is possible that this super androgen killer does nothing at all?
Did you heat up your Daro and how often do you make a new batch?
Don't heat it. Just let it sit in the minoxidil for two days till it dissolves on its own.
Mostly made 7 day batches but lately have cut it down to 4.
For various ressons I'll probably try to use stemox fructis as vehicle soon (there's always something new you can try which keeps the coping alive). I reckon it won't take as long to dissolve then.
Cool okay. Maybe it is not stable anymore after the 2 days of dissolving? How did you do on antiandrogens before? Maintained at least for while?
Well I have gotten some side effects, so it's clearly been capable of doing something. Sides seem to have lessened lately though.
Wasn't on finasteride long enough to really conclude . I feel like RU did good things but hard to say for sure. Could have just been the minoxidil
@SteveTabernack @jonnywalker93 i don’t heat mine, I made fresh batches every 2 days to ensure zero spoilage and I’m on 0.02%. My hair has not improved. I’m shedding a ridiculous amount. I hold almost zero faith in antiandrogens anymore, particularly for diffuse/DUPa/retrograde.
Aren't diffusers generally considered the best responders to finasteride though? It's those damn receded temples that never recover.
I don't even think I'm really diffusing except for on the sides of my head for whatever reason. Temples are ridiculously far back and all of the hairline has eroded at this point. My comb over looks ridiculous and I've completely lost the frame to the face. FUCK.
I TOTALLY get what you mean. My entire hairline is fucked over by Androgenetic Alopecia, so the bits around my ears, forelock, temples, temple point, behind the ears and nape all look moth eaten because the hairs are miniturised. It’s a nightmare. I remember before minoxidil when my recession was at its worst, (although my density was significantly better), I couldn’t even recognise myself anymore. You’re so right about losing the frame to your face. It completely changes your appearance.
@SteveTabernack yoi can see we in these photos where the hair is all miniturised around my face and nape. Little blonde/vellus hairs everywhere where there were terminal hairs a few months back, and you can see how the hairline is eaten away in like an arc fashion
I think you would be horrified to see how much worse my hairline looks .. ...
It's become exceedingly hard to cope in recent times. Hair is constantly on my mind to the point of entering my dreams. Shall we ever achieve peace of mind?
Yeah same. I’m glad that I have uni and work to distract me because this would drive me off the edge of a high rise otherwise. I just want it to fucking stop falling out. How hard is it to just grow hair like a normal person?!
Looks like idealforehead punked a lot of people here in this thread all his bold claims of regrowth and fancy explanations yet with zero shred of evidence. Its sad because this stuff is dangerous and I know people are desperate and do anything to get their hair back and he played on it. We all need to work off evidence and fact based claims not some anecdotal bulshit