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my journey from badly thinning norwood 5 and norwood2.5 hairline ressesion to almost non balding head of hair.
main idea = induce new hairs from wounding enviroment plus boost existing hair to anagen and thicker more healthy hair.
this thread will contain my experience,observation ,personal breakthroughs on dermarolling or any other mechanical way to cause friction of hypodermis,dermis and epidermis.
my ignition was the a public study testing the wounding induced hair by use of dermarolling 1.5mm 192 needles. once a week in conjuction with general 5% minoxidil application twice a day everyday except 24h post wounding session.
the study--> http://www.ijtrichology.com/article...lume=5;issue=1;spage=6;epage=11;aulast=Dhurat
as we all know skin turns into a superior biochemical enviroment once it gets wounded by that mane "life" factors are released to repair damage from whom our hair get benefit a lot too.
here are some pics of my progress.
it is almost 3 months. 12 sessions.
methodology.
cleand head wash it.dry it.apply xylocream or emla a thick pasto of them on all norwood for 50 min.wash it out with water,dip galea in betandine.dip roller in alcohol and betandine.dont make it comme in contact with anything.wear latex gloves.start rolling in all directions 10 times.press about 100newton force i know its brutal but it is necessary.in the first 3-4 roll sessions there wont be much blood.its ok.but after it will be like the pics above.when you are done clean the roller with tap water and leave in betandine till next use. after 3 -4 uses use an other one.
apply minoxidil 24h after. wash head with water 24 h after. massage it the next day it will pain you its ok....
by that we kinda reopen the wounds.
stop using any antiinflamantory agents like emu oil.oils.ketoconazole like nizoral they cancel the purpose of the treatment.but further investigation needs to be done.
observations i made.
-hair appeared thicker around 6th week
-hair doesnt get oily.
-hair doesnt shed or atleast sheds like donor.
-hair is kinda aroused lol it stays upwards seems pili muscle got boosted.
-galea elasticity is superb not like a brick the same goes for touch sensation.
-hair appears thicker.and shines like when you are on msm
-hair is darker.hair grows faster,
-hair diameter is at least doube.
-hair has new sprouted hair everywhere kinda terminals. and many vellus.
i stopped using minoxidil around 1 and half months from then and on i only dermaroll. some times i gave more than a week fro my wounds to close properly till next roll.9 days maybe.
i will keep doing it for 4 months then go every 20 days or so.
minoxidil was stopped cause it inhibits collagen production and leads to aging face in the long run... here. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15908192
i am excited cause by this we get rid the chronic micro inflamation i know it is werd but it happens. also new vessels come everywhere and blood supply is superb to the hair follicle level.i believe the best roller length would be 2mm and 192needles. nth wels will do the friction we need.just think the wounding and tearing by the angle of entering and exiting the skin of the needles.
so after half a year we made a nice enviroment for our hair to grow now lets immortalise it. prp injections to make our galea tendon tendonitis free.
i believe tendonitis and male pattern baldness are connected. the only place we loose hair from head is tendon under skin while permanent hair has muscle. this tendon gets inflammed.we wound it we remodel it.then we prp it. like they prp tendonitis athletes. it will work if someone knows where we can get prp injections cheap pm me.
till the close futere wound safe pray for donor regen to become mainstream with high yields. a mechanical cure is on the doorstep friends and on top of that we will have many injectio cell treatments like replicel histogen to boost our hair.
sides.
-lymph nodes might get big for some days if you wound heavy.
-blood might run from nose when you wipe it.this could be irrelevant though.
-tired sensation migh be some days after.
-hearing change might be observed but it goes away this heavy ear feeling is caused by arteries behind ear getting enlarged to increase blood supply,
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main idea = induce new hairs from wounding enviroment plus boost existing hair to anagen and thicker more healthy hair.
this thread will contain my experience,observation ,personal breakthroughs on dermarolling or any other mechanical way to cause friction of hypodermis,dermis and epidermis.
my ignition was the a public study testing the wounding induced hair by use of dermarolling 1.5mm 192 needles. once a week in conjuction with general 5% minoxidil application twice a day everyday except 24h post wounding session.
the study--> http://www.ijtrichology.com/article...lume=5;issue=1;spage=6;epage=11;aulast=Dhurat
as we all know skin turns into a superior biochemical enviroment once it gets wounded by that mane "life" factors are released to repair damage from whom our hair get benefit a lot too.
here are some pics of my progress.
it is almost 3 months. 12 sessions.
methodology.
cleand head wash it.dry it.apply xylocream or emla a thick pasto of them on all norwood for 50 min.wash it out with water,dip galea in betandine.dip roller in alcohol and betandine.dont make it comme in contact with anything.wear latex gloves.start rolling in all directions 10 times.press about 100newton force i know its brutal but it is necessary.in the first 3-4 roll sessions there wont be much blood.its ok.but after it will be like the pics above.when you are done clean the roller with tap water and leave in betandine till next use. after 3 -4 uses use an other one.
apply minoxidil 24h after. wash head with water 24 h after. massage it the next day it will pain you its ok....
by that we kinda reopen the wounds.
stop using any antiinflamantory agents like emu oil.oils.ketoconazole like nizoral they cancel the purpose of the treatment.but further investigation needs to be done.
observations i made.
-hair appeared thicker around 6th week
-hair doesnt get oily.
-hair doesnt shed or atleast sheds like donor.
-hair is kinda aroused lol it stays upwards seems pili muscle got boosted.
-galea elasticity is superb not like a brick the same goes for touch sensation.
-hair appears thicker.and shines like when you are on msm
-hair is darker.hair grows faster,
-hair diameter is at least doube.
-hair has new sprouted hair everywhere kinda terminals. and many vellus.
i stopped using minoxidil around 1 and half months from then and on i only dermaroll. some times i gave more than a week fro my wounds to close properly till next roll.9 days maybe.
i will keep doing it for 4 months then go every 20 days or so.
minoxidil was stopped cause it inhibits collagen production and leads to aging face in the long run... here. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15908192
i am excited cause by this we get rid the chronic micro inflamation i know it is werd but it happens. also new vessels come everywhere and blood supply is superb to the hair follicle level.i believe the best roller length would be 2mm and 192needles. nth wels will do the friction we need.just think the wounding and tearing by the angle of entering and exiting the skin of the needles.
so after half a year we made a nice enviroment for our hair to grow now lets immortalise it. prp injections to make our galea tendon tendonitis free.
i believe tendonitis and male pattern baldness are connected. the only place we loose hair from head is tendon under skin while permanent hair has muscle. this tendon gets inflammed.we wound it we remodel it.then we prp it. like they prp tendonitis athletes. it will work if someone knows where we can get prp injections cheap pm me.
till the close futere wound safe pray for donor regen to become mainstream with high yields. a mechanical cure is on the doorstep friends and on top of that we will have many injectio cell treatments like replicel histogen to boost our hair.
sides.
-lymph nodes might get big for some days if you wound heavy.
-blood might run from nose when you wipe it.this could be irrelevant though.
-tired sensation migh be some days after.
-hearing change might be observed but it goes away this heavy ear feeling is caused by arteries behind ear getting enlarged to increase blood supply,
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<--even wet is thicker lol
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