Hey Guys
I am in the club of someone who used Propecia, stopped cos of sides, restarted and then with ancillary supps/meds, cycled appropriately managed to beat the sides without the Propecia stopping working in its positive senses.
Not just me but I think at least 3-4 guys in this thread have either commenced the use of one or more of the recommendations and reported good results albeit I can’t recall if all/some/any were using propecia at the same time.
Don’t overthink things. If you have more than one type of medical condition your doctor will prescribe more than one medicine to control the conditions. Nobody thinks too much about this, they do it, and each condition gets controlled.
Or to take my background in an unrelated to hairloss field.
I used supplements to perform as an athlete. Eventually moved to steroids, growth hormone, Bromo when “off” hormonal agents etc etc. In using these kinds of compounds it creates often a need for the use of another (using HCG, tamoxifen for example for steroid use), or clenbuterol and T3 for GH use. This will sound scary to a person whose not into this type of thing but the bottom line was by adopting this approach you avoid gyno, hypogonadism, slowing fat loss caused by GH increasing thyroid hormone needs etc etc.
OTOH, “playing it safe”, say taking just testosterone means you probably wind up with aggravating hair loss, man boobs, water retention etc etc.
The point is, whether it’s a medical condition, for performance or cosmetic reasons, you can usually find a combination that maximises positives and minimises negatives and that just taking one thing (be it testosterone for a bodybuilder or just propecia for someone into their hair) is NOT the best approach because while it may “work” from a positive perspective it means you’re doing nothing to address negatives. Whereas by intelligent combinations you get the positives without the negatives at all if you do it right.
I’m not into cars but it applies there. You wouldn’t if you had a Ferrari just focus on filling it with crap quality gasoline just to get you from A to B and then not look after the wheels, oil changes, bodywork etc etc.
It’s like that with most things in life. A balanced approach maximising the good and minimising the bad is what we should all look to do. If you do that then your body composition/hairline/car etc will perform better and it’s absolutely not true that by doing this you end up with more problems.
(For those interested, by combining meds properly as an athlete I never had issues with suppression, never had health problems, etc etc. Looked the part and had great results on gym and field tests.
On the other hand, I’d see guys who thought that by sticking to the basics they’d get better results and there the ones who either went infertile or crazy while their physiques deteriorated over time (got gyno, big guts, hypogonadism etc).
This was meant to be a short message but felt I had to really drive home this point. To keep it simple, and save people too much guesswork and answer the questions in the last couple of posts, a sensible way to commence would be to continue to use propecia, then cycle one or more of the compounds mentioned in phases to see how you react to it (so say, like artisan mentioned, to try eldepryl/Selegiline for 4-6 weeks, switch to alchemy, then to cabaser, or the other way round if you prefer).
There is no way you’re gonna see more hairloss so you’ve got very little to lose. Even if you don’t get all the positives you’d want, you’ll definitely get at least some, be it better mood, less body fat, less risk of gyno, more libido etc and in fact all three of those three would have varying impacts on all the aforementioned factors.
If you’re wanting to prioritise libido and orgasm quality I’d say start on cabaser.
If your focus is body composition, and lowering estrogen then Alchemy.
If it’s a combination of mood/focus then go with Selegiline first.
