The Big Bad Awesome Brotzu Lotion Faq

[Giiizmo]

what do you mean? This is exactly what they said at that workshop: follicles are never lost in AA, while they are in Androgenetic Alopecia.
and it doesn't take to be a specialist to know about this.

I meant that in Androgenetic Alopecia, follicles don't die, they atrophy but they're still around ("go dormant"). If negative factors are removed or diminished, or a specific growth stimulus is produced, follicles regain vigor and hair can potentially grow again, in time.

 

[hilbert]

I meant that in Androgenetic Alopecia, follicles don't die, they atrophy but they're still around ("go dormant"). If negative factors are removed or diminished, or a specific growth stimulus is produced, follicles regain vigor and hair can potentially grow again, in time.

in Androgenetic Alopecia the follicles do die over time afaik. in aa they dont.

 

[JLC]

I have the up most respect for Brotzu (if this lotion works well) but you can see in the video and other pics his hairline is not perfect.
If anyone was going to use it to fix their hair first it would be the lotion's creator.
I'm guessing where he has lost hair it has been over a long period of time, he's an elderly man.
So this says to me if the hair has been long gone with Androgenetic Alopecia this lotion is not gonna bring your hair back.

 

[Giiizmo]

in Androgenetic Alopecia the follicles do die over time afaik. in aa they dont.

They don't, they atrophy, which is different. Treatments can potentially induce healthy hair growth once more if all the factors are addressed.


Male Pattern Balding May Be Due to Stem Cell Inactivation. The authors concluded that totally bald scalps do not have fewer hair follicle stem cells, but rather, fewer specialized progenitor cells.
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2011/01/male-pattern-balding-stem-cell-inactivation/


Effect of scalp burns on common male pattern baldness. Case study in which they discussed an old man who burnt his scalp badly and then regrew a lot of hair in the burnt region that had been missing for decades.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1351889/


Reversal of male-pattern baldness, hypertrichosis, and accelerated hair and nail growth in patients receiving benoxaprofen. Benaxoprofen regrew hair in a 75 year old patient who had been suffering from androgenic alopecia for 30 years.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1498062/?page=1


Topical Diclofenac 3% Gel for Actinic Keratosis May Induce Terminal Hair in Male Androgenetic Alopecia: A Report of Three Cases. A study from 2015 fund that topical Diclofenac 3% gel for treating actinic keratosis (also called “solar keratosis”) resulted in three elderly patients regrowing some long-lost hair.
http://journalssc.com/?page=article&article_id=33470

 

[hilbert]

They don't, they atrophy, which is different. Treatments can potentially induce healthy hair growth once more if all the factors are addressed.


Male Pattern Balding May Be Due to Stem Cell Inactivation. The authors concluded that totally bald scalps do not have fewer hair follicle stem cells, but rather, fewer specialized progenitor cells.
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2011/01/male-pattern-balding-stem-cell-inactivation/


Effect of scalp burns on common male pattern baldness. Case study in which they discussed an old man who burnt his scalp badly and then regrew a lot of hair in the burnt region that had been missing for decades.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1351889/


Reversal of male-pattern baldness, hypertrichosis, and accelerated hair and nail growth in patients receiving benoxaprofen. Benaxoprofen regrew hair in a 75 year old patient who had been suffering from androgenic alopecia for 30 years.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1498062/?page=1


Topical Diclofenac 3% Gel for Actinic Keratosis May Induce Terminal Hair in Male Androgenetic Alopecia: A Report of Three Cases. A study from 2015 fund that topical Diclofenac 3% gel for treating actinic keratosis (also called “solar keratosis”) resulted in three elderly patients regrowing some long-lost hair.
http://journalssc.com/?page=article&article_id=33470

if we trust the work by dr. sinclair, once the apm has detached, the follicle is gone for good. plus don't forget about fibrosis.

 

[hilbert]

I have the up most respect for Brotzu (if this lotion works well) but you can see in the video and other pics his hairline is not perfect.
If anyone was going to use it to fix their hair first it would be the lotion's creator.
I'm guessing where he has lost hair it has been over a long period of time, he's an elderly man.
So this says to me if the hair has been long gone with Androgenetic Alopecia this lotion is not gonna bring your hair back.

right, he has a less than perfect hairline in his 80s, and would be treating it.
i think we might lose a realistic perspective in these 3ds...

 

[Youngerman]

@hilbert any good info that you can interpret from the dermatologist article that Brotzu speaks about and that has been posted in brotzu forums on this site before?

 

[hilbert]

@hilbert any good info that you can interpret from the dermatologist article that Brotzu speaks about and that has been posted in brotzu forums on this site before?

which article?

 

[Youngerman]

@hilbert https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/brotzu-pdf.42386/

 

[hilbert]

@hilbert https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/brotzu-pdf.42386/

ah ok, didn't see it. will read into that asap.

 

[JLC]

This should be a "Sticky Thread".

 

[Mr White]

I have the up most respect for Brotzu (if this lotion works well) but you can see in the video and other pics his hairline is not perfect.
If anyone was going to use it to fix their hair first it would be the lotion's creator.
I'm guessing where he has lost hair it has been over a long period of time, he's an elderly man.
So this says to me if the hair has been long gone with Androgenetic Alopecia this lotion is not gonna bring your hair back.

Maintenance would be more than great to me.

Here's my plan: Brotzu's lotion to maintain what I've got and then Tsuji to fill in the temples in 2020.

 

[Mr White]

another question that i want to ask and i don't think if we've discussed this before for the Brotzu lotion.

if we suppose all the Dr. brotzu's claims are true and the lotion is effective . do you think it can heal the oily seborrheic scalps.

in my case i have diffused Androgenetic Alopecia + seborrheic only in the top of my scalps where the hair loss occur. and the side are OK.

do you think it will remove the excess of sebum ??

Are you currently on finasteride? I used to have the same problem (greasy scalp + Androgenetic Alopecia) and finasteride was wonderful. It didn't just stop the hairloss, it also improved the appearance of the scalp. Everyone is different though, and results vary greatly.

 

[Xaser94]

Maintenance would be more than great to me.

Here's my plan: Brotzu's lotion to maintain what I've got and then Tsuji to fill in the temples in 2020.

Yeah, brotzu seems to be our only hope to bridge us till maybe Follica, Histogen, and Replicel. For those with more hair loss Tsuji is the definitive answer. It is a reach, but if Fida can release their lotion before 2017 still, I may be able to get by with just the lotion and maybe Histogen for the temples.

 

[Blackber]

Yeah, brotzu seems to be our only hope to bridge us till maybe Follica, Histogen, and Replicel. For those with more hair loss Tsuji is the definitive answer. It is a reach, but if Fida can release their lotion before 2017 still, I may be able to get by with just the lotion and maybe Histogen for the temples.

That's my plan as well. I joined the Brotzu Italian GB in the meantime.

Just saw you live in NYC as well, nice to have a fellow NYC'er here.

 

[Xaser94]

That's my plan as well. I joined the Brotzu Italian GB in the meantime.

Just saw you live in NYC as well, nice to have a fellow NYC'er here.

yeah, for sure bro. Props for taking the plunge on that group buy. I wasnt sure if there would be a problem with customs, and or if it was gonna be effective. I wonder if HairLossTalk.com would be able to organize our own group buy if its known to start working.

 

[Youngerman]

Would anyone on HairLossTalk.com be willing to formulate a United States/Canada group and do what the italian GB is doing? I am participating in the GB but U.S. would be much easier for everyone here and that lotion is only going to last people 2 months. We would obviously need a chemist/someone who owns a sonicator as well which is difficult to find.

 

[Mr White]

That's my plan as well. I joined the Brotzu Italian GB in the meantime.
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Good luck and keep us posted on your results!

 

[kawnshawn]

That's my plan as well. I joined the Brotzu Italian GB in the meantime.

Just saw you live in NYC as well, nice to have a fellow NYC'er here.

Do you have the link for the group buy on the Italian forum? I've been searching for it but can't seem to find it.

 

[jc3303]

Do you have the link for the group buy on the Italian forum? I've been searching for it but can't seem to find it.

http://rivoluzionecapelli.blogspot.ca/