Testosterone Replacement Therapy ,propecia, Dht Levels And Sideeffects

pikemason

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Hi family,

I recently started testosterone replacement therapy and wanted to start propecia. I believe that the degree and number of side effects would be less with a person on TRT vs not on TRT . I tried propecia a few years ago but did suffer from mild side effects and stopped which I think was a bad idea. At the time I was not on a trt protocol. I recently tested my DHT levels and I was at 37, normal range is between 16-75. Do you think I can take propecia safely if I micro dose and keep my levels between normal ranges? I get tested every 3 to 6 months to check my T and DHT levels. Is there anything else I should take to help with sides besides cialis? Best protocol to get hair with no sides? I had to no choice to start TRT my levels were 200 and I tried two years "naturally" and nothing worked. Also I feel so amazing right now there's no way I would stop.

Dr. Rand Mcclain a doctor that specializes in TRT stated out of 5k of his male patients ONLY 12 patients had sides from propecia and after stopping propecia they were fine with in two weeks. Additionally any new patient that came to him for the so called "PFS" he was able to get them feeling good and normal with a trt protocol.


TRT Protocol
150mg weekly split into micro dose every other day
900Iu HCG split into 3x a week
Updated 8/31/2018
I am starting MK677 to increase hgh and igf1, There have been reports that it may help with hair. I will update the group.

Upated. Another doctor that specializes in TRT therepy stating that men on TRT therapy in his practice are not effective by propecia PFS start watching @1:24 of the video for discussion.

update 9/17/2019 you can see the updated pictures below of my crown. Ive been on propecia for 8 months with no sideeffects. My crown has improved even while being on TRT therepy. I may try a weekly dose of dutasteride as I have had no side effects from 5mg daily propecia.

update 10/20/2018
dutasteride .5 weekly
finasteride 2.5 daily
5mg daily cialis
micro needling weekly
keto shampoo 4 days a week
revita conditioner and oils... helps with dryness from keto shampoo

Hair is stable for the first time after 11 months, Im guessing I need another 6 to 12 months to see final results. My baseline was very bad and i'm not using minoxidil so I imagine this is going to take longer. I went to a trichologist and had the machine put to my crown and he can see a lot of new hairs growing in.


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/exd.12339

 

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bluecyclone

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Question about your age? 41 balding came out of no where two years ago. Diffuse starting with crown and hairline starting to go in the last 6 months. On RU and Oral Minoxidil still losing ground. Low DHT normal T.
 

DoctorHouse

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Hi family,

I recently started testosterone replacement therapy and wanted to start propecia. I believe that the degree and number of side effects would be less with a person on TRT vs not on TRT . I tried propecia a few years ago but did suffer from mild side effects and stopped which I think was a bad idea. At the time I was not on a trt protocol. I recently tested my DHT levels and I was at 37, normal range is between 16-75. Do you think I can take propecia safely if I micro dose and keep my levels between normal ranges? I get tested every 3 to 6 months to check my T and DHT levels. Is there anything else I should take to help with sides besides cialis? Best protocol to get hair with no sides? I had to no choice to start TRT my levels were 200 and I tried two years "naturally" and nothing worked. Also I feel so amazing right now there's no way I would stop.

Dr. Rand Mcclain a doctor that specializes in TRT stated out of 5k of his male patients ONLY 12 patients had sides from propecia and after stopping propecia they were fine with in two weeks. Additionally any new patient that came to him for the so called "PFS" he was able to get them feeling good and normal with a trt protocol.


TRT Protocol
150mg weekly split into micro dose every other day
900Iu HCG split into 3x a week
Ameridex 1mg

Propecia(name brand wh***) sorry I gotta go name brand, this is my final shot to save my hair.
I was thinking about taking .25 4x a week to start to see how I feel.

Hair
Diffused norwood 4V. Crown is balding/thinning bad. Rest of the hair and hairline is intact but diffused.
Have you ever thought about using finasteride topically. I think if I were in your shoes I would give that a try.
 

pikemason

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Have you ever thought about using finasteride topically. I think if I were in your shoes I would give that a try.


I'm going to try topical for 6 months and see if I get improvement.

question

Do you think I should the topical gel that hasson and wong makes with liposomes or the company in italy that sells a silicon liposomal gel called Farmacia Parati.? or does it matter. Otherwise i'm looking to my topical from minoxidilmax.
 

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pikemason

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Question about your age? 41 balding came out of no where two years ago. Diffuse starting with crown and hairline starting to go in the last 6 months. On RU and Oral Minoxidil still losing ground. Low DHT normal T.
i'm 36 years old and my blood work is good. The last 2 years I took a big hit to my crown.
 

DoctorHouse

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I'm going to try topical for 6 months and see if I get improvement.

question

Do you think I should the topical gel that hasson and wong makes with liposomes or the company in italy that sells a silicon liposomal gel called Farmacia Parati.? or does it matter. Otherwise i'm looking to my topical from minoxidilmax.
I would use Hasson and Wongs. I don't know if I would want something silicon based.
 

AnxiousAndy

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You don't need DHT to be a man, so why not use propecia at the recommended 1mg dose? Also, are you transgender?
 

pikemason

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You don't need DHT to be a man, so why not use propecia at the recommended 1mg dose? Also, are you transgender?
no. I'm on trt because I had t levels of 200 and more importantly I felt like sh*t. After I started T I cant explant how much better I feel. I'm just trying to be careful.
 

AnxiousAndy

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no. I'm on trt because I had t levels of 200 and more importantly I felt like sh*t. After I started T I cant explant how much better I feel. I'm just trying to be careful.
Sorry, my bad. Do you really feel better? I'm actually doing the opposite and removing testosterone from my body, I have no idea what my levels are at but I actually feel great.. If you don't include the side effects!
 

pikemason

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Your actually just suppressing your DHT levels which in return increases your testosterone and estrogen. I believe the real danger comes when people actually stop taking propecia abruptly and there body has a hard time recovering. Whats your sideeffects?
 

bluecyclone

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Has anyone successfully purchased Hasson and Wong, they told me it was only available to their transplant patients. I offered to fly to Vancouver to buy it.
 

pikemason

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Has anyone successfully purchased Hasson and Wong, they told me it was only available to their transplant patients. I offered to fly to Vancouver to buy it.

When I called hasson and wong they told me the same thing. I believe Farmacia Parati pharmacy in italy makes the same compound.
 

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Most men need 5AR to be a man.
Then explain why users like @nickypoos were able to remove almost all the DHT in their body using dutasteride and still look like an absolute beast?
 

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@pikemason, you list above:

TRT Protocol
150mg weekly split into micro dose every other day
900Iu HCG split into 3x a week
Ameridex 1mg

What is the testosterone form you are taking? What is the delivery method? What is HCG supposed to do for you?
 
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