Discussion in 'Tell Your Story' started by Somebody, Sep 19, 2009.
@Mazaza : some updates?
I haven't tried topical cream, etc. In Japan they take perilla bath, as anti aging treatment. Anyway I have just taken it by mouth.
Hi Alex, yesterday i used your dermaroller 1.5mm for the first time.
1) I applied minoxidil right after rolling and it stung.
2) 24h later, my skin is still little red.
3) 15m after application, i could feel my heart rate was accelerated.
Do you think I pressed too much? I clearly got high absorption, maybe I am not the right person for this. I am also scared about some sides like growing hair in other parts of my body.
I bought the perilla capsules from verkkoaptekki, can't post link, what do you think about them?
Thanks a lot!
Yep. Check www.youtube.com/somebodyalex
Only if you apply there.
Perilla is for inflammation, not growth stimulator.
Are you Aware that a Dermapen (cheaper Version:dermastamp) is much more effective than a roller?
If you looked into them can you share with me the reasons ur not Using them?
I got my regrowth from dermaroller, and they are super cheap. Why change something that obviously gives results?
How about pressure? With dermaroller I can easily find right pressure to use on my scalp.
for better results
Did you have any experience with Gyno?
It's never good to be too greedy...
"A Randomized Evaluator Blinded Study of Effect of Microneedling in Androgenetic Alopecia (Int J Trichology. 2013 Jan-Mar; 5(1): 6–11.) showed that: "Dermaroller along with Minoxidil treated group was statistically superior to Minoxidil treated group in promoting hair growth in men with Androgenetic Alopecia for all 3 primary efficacy measures of hair growth. Microneedling is a safe and a promising tool in hair stimulation and also is useful to treat hair loss refractory to Minoxidil therapy."
I haven't forgotten you nor given up on my routine. My phone crashed again and I had to reset it again... So I lost pictures of my hair again.
What I will do is the following:
Post pictures of how is my hair right now (after ~3-4 months on minoxidil everyday), in this thread, this week.
Put some more details about my experience (in a nutshell, I apply too much minoxidil, I probably dermaroll a bit too hard, my beard and body hair starting growing stronger because of minoxidil).
In two months I will post new pictures so we will be able to tell if I am losing ground, maintaining, or growing hair.
Update / remarks:
After discussing with a close friend of mine that is using propecia without side effects and maintaining, I am also considering to start that. But to do so I need to visit a hair doctor. I will call one this week.
I think the perilla leaves help at the very least with the itching: I forgot to take it for a couple of days and my scalp was starting to itch again...
Regarding results: I think I am growing new hair on my temples but they are vellus and sparse. Is it the expected pattern of 'regrow'?
I was using minoxidil for 2 years without any success. I gave up on it because it brought only more shedding.
After reading this thread I decided to give it 3-4 months try with 3tubes of rogaine + dermaroller + perilla + anti-inflamatory diet and supplements . 5 weeks so far with no results on my head, however, I am getting more hairy on my chest.
Have you ever experienced that?
Is there a way to avoid that and to explain minoxidil to work on a body part where I apply it?
Hey @Luke777, definitely. Getting hairier (hands, chest, beard mainly) is a side effect I am experiencing.
I don't know how to avoid that, but I assume it comes from the fact that I am using too much minoxidil (ranging between 2.5 mL and 4 mL). Perhaps you also are using too much? I am trying to use less but it is not that easy iven the fact that I have long-ish hair right now.
I going to try this regime! Big believer in the inflammation story.
Are Perilla leaves the same as Shiso leaves? I cant find any Perilla leaves in my country but I can find Shiso leaves.
WikiPedia is not really clear about it, I think it is?
Keep up Telogen Effluvium good work!
Shiso = perilla yes however, it didn't work for me ( still itching... ).
Sorry for the delay. Here us my 4 months update with pics taken today!
Remarks on the pictures:
They show my loss of density on toop, my hairline, temples, and crown.
They were taken under a quite harsh white light (if you look at my hands you see that the light is quite strong).
I have some strange hair growing where I roll (hairline, sides and temples). They are very sparce, but quite thick... Is it a good sign?
There is also a picture of what my hair looks like normally.
My regimen for the past 4 months:
Minoxidil (lipogaine) 5% once per day, since the mid November. I missed maybe 3 days since I started.
Nizoral shampoo (Lipogaine's 'big 3' shampoo), twice a week. I am not washing my hair in between.
Light dermarolling (1.5mm) on the days I shampoo, since mid-December (I tried rolling early December but did it a bit too hard so I took ~10 days of break before trying again). I have not been rolling very regularly and forgot to do it quite often.
Perilla leave powder (allermin) since mid-January, one cap a day. It reduced some light psoriasis I had on my elbows, and I feel it makes my scalp itch less.
B-vitamin complex, one cap a day.
I initially started taking fish oil, but ran out of it since early January. And I haven't bought it again (sometimes I am THAT lazy...). I should restart taking it, at least for its numerous health benefits.
Side effects / remarks:
The only side effect I am experiencing is mild hypertrichosis, a bit everywhere on my body. I am applying at least 2 mL of minoxidil each time (long hair), and I guess that if I was applying less this effect would be reduced, or go away.
It takes me a long time to apply minoxidil. I need to train and/or cut my hair to makes things faster, otherwise I know I will be tempted to quit at some point in the future.
What I plan to do next:
I will try to dermaroll more often, if possible every day (with a day of break every now and then), to see if it improves the situation.
I have an appointment with a dermatologist next week. I'll see what the doctor say about my hair loss, and if they decide to prescribe finasteride I may consider starting it, probably at 0.5 mg every day.
I should buy supplements again. I am thinking about taking fish oil again and give a try to borage oil too.
Next update in one month.
Happy to answer any question.
Are you on Rogaine Foam?m
Only in places where I have accidently dropped few drops of minoxidil
Yes, it's same
There is always topical salicylic acid to try out
Good luck, looking forward to hearing more about your progress. It's great that you manage to keep it so clear makes it easy to follow.