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Well, they say time flies. With respect to this trial, these three years will be as slow as retired snails for me.
Shiseido Hair Loss Clinical Trial To Begin
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Blackber
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Hopefully things like Brotzu and Histogen come through and give some some relief until the heavier hitters like Replicel and RIKEN come through.
I repeat for the last time: Even the hairs in your donor area could shrink as you get older so those cells from your donor area are not immunized from DHT. Millions and millions of men are experiencing donor follicle miniaturization as they age.
You can't say for sure or not if they are immunized to DHT that's true but they are at least a lot more resilient. It could take 10 or 20 or more years for that to even be a problem and by then there will be far superior treatments. It's an issue yes but one that doesn't need to be worried about too much
Yeah I've noticed the old men thing.
So how will cloning even work if cells are taken from the donor area to make cloned hairs?
We should hope that the embryonic clones begin their life from Day Zero. There is good chance of this, as it was recently announced that cloned sheep of Dolly the sheep have aged at a normally rate, not faster as it was once thought.
So hopefully the embryonic hair germs will also start afresh.
Everyone here has noticed it. The posters shrugging off this issue are kidding themselves.
There are a lot of old men with very sparse hairs in their donor area. Those hairs are often kind of course, fine, and ugly. It would be better than bald but the people here would be disturbed about it if they found themselves with it down the road. NO woman is going to feel good about it on her head although she will like it more than being bald.
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Some of you guys will just never be satisfied.
What do you honestly expect? Do you really expect to have the same quality hair when you're an old man/woman that you had when you were a teen? It's called getting OLD. Your skin, your muscles, your eye sight, your teeth etc. will all deteriorate as you get older and then you die.
Get a grip and be happy with the potential of some of these treatments.
What do you honestly expect? Do you really expect to have the same quality hair when you're an old man/woman that you had when you were a teen? It's called getting OLD. Your skin, your muscles, your eye sight, your teeth etc. will all deteriorate as you get older and then you die.
Get a grip and be happy with the potential of some of these treatments.
Since you presently hope for better looking hair this shows that down the road when you're thin, sparse, brittle, Replicel-hair is looking bad all over your entire scalp you will be depressed about it all over again.
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Blackber
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Putting words in my mouth much?
Do I want my hair to look better? Yes, what 28 yr old with thinning hair wouldn't.
Do I expect my hair to look as thick, healthy and pigmented when I'm 65 as it did when I was 15? No.
Even men that don't suffer from male pattern baldness have hair that thins out as they get older, it's a part of life.
Clearly the point I was trying to make about one's body deteriorating being a part of life went right over your head but that doesn't surprise me.
Yes everyone gets old but nobody don't likes it. Nobody. If they give you good looking hair today and it gets ugly in 10 years then you'll be right back in a hair website depressed about it. I promise. We need to think ahead. We want this problem solved forever.
Sorry about the sarcasm in my previous post. You're an intelligent gentleman poster. I posted the sarcasm without realizing it was you because you've changed your icon.
Peace!
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Blackber
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I don't like being 28 years old never mind any older lol.
No harm no foul man. male pattern baldness makes all of us get a little edgy sometimes.
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Lol!
Some people just desperately want treatments to fail for whatever baffling reason or lack thereof.
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I have not researched this at all, so forgive my ignorance but - if this were an obstacle, could they potentially take cells from follicles elsewhere on the body? like the back or chest?
incorrect.
donor hair thin over age (average 30%) due to the exhaustion of stem cells (i.e. normal senescence).
that's evident for secondary pilii.
the dht sensitive follicles in a donor are approx 10% in non dupa cases.
Too many people are already declaring Replicel a cure.
I'm just pointing out the potential negatives so posters
don't get their hopes up too high. SM04554 taught me
that we need to keep our eyes open for the negatives.
Nope. Some treatments just fail on their own without anyone hoping they will fail.
Of course I want it to be a breakthrough. I just see the facts we presently have
being more negative than positive at the moment. Of course I would be happy to
see new evidence that is positive and I'm keeping an open mind to new evidence
but for right now Replicel looks more negative than positive. Hopefully there will be
good news soon that will move the scales to the positive side. All we can do is wait
for more evidence.
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I agree, and it's a good intention.
The problem is, if you try to back (some of) your statements with weak/wrong scientific arguments, then it sounds like you just want to dismiss it.
A simple "guys, feet on the ground until it's an effective treatment on the market" would work much better imho.