Samumed Sm04554 Results Normalized To Baseline

[cmoi]

Hello everybody,
I have been using SM for 2 weeks now, and i'm shedding like ever. is it normal? I was under minoxidil for months , I stopped minoxidil and switched to SM, but no results so far , I'm using DMSO + Stemox + 0.15% SM... i'm really hopeless, should i stick to it?
Thank you

 

[John Difool]

Are you taking anything else?

 

[cmoi]

I have many years experience in testing hairloss products like a rat:
Oral fina 6 months: worked 100% but huge testo suppression so I stopped.
Topical fina 3 months: same as oral so i stopped
Topical seti for 8 months: it worked 90% but sleep quality very bad, muscle quality as well very bad, and testo suppression so I stopped
CB0301 tested topically: it worked 100% for 3 months then I started shedding + huge brutal testo suppression.. I stopped immediately and it took me 4 months to recover my avg level of testo and libido
just after CB i restarted only minoxidil + microneedling : honestly it works at 70% let's say, the problem hair is growing everywhere, eyebro, shoulder...
and since 2 weeks i started SM and stopped minoxidil: HUGE SHEDDING, I don't know what to do
Thanks

 

[nick123]

I have many years experience in testing hairloss products like a rat:
Oral fina 6 months: worked 100% but huge testo suppression so I stopped.
Topical fina 3 months: same as oral so i stopped
Topical seti for 8 months: it worked 90% but sleep quality very bad, muscle quality as well very bad, and testo suppression so I stopped
CB0301 tested topically: it worked 100% for 3 months then I started shedding + huge brutal testo suppression.. I stopped immediately and it took me 4 months to recover my avg level of testo and libido
just after CB i restarted only minoxidil + microneedling : honestly it works at 70% let's say, the problem hair is growing everywhere, eyebro, shoulder...
and since 2 weeks i started SM and stopped minoxidil: HUGE SHEDDING, I don't know what to do
Thanks

Your shed be because you are coming off of Minoxidil? If you have legit SM04554, I'd say ride it out. I am a bit confused to why you chose DMSO + stemox as a vehicle for SM04554. I know SM04554 dissolves in DMSO but I have yet to see anything about SM04554s solubility in ethanol, pg and water based solutions.

 

[cmoi]

Hi ,
no particular choice, but I tried to dissolve it in everything nothing worked except DMSO, alsmo MUCH DMSO, i even tried to dissolve it in dmso then fill the rest with stemox, you keep it one day then SM solidifies again...
that's why i used to make SM 0.15%
stemox: 35ml
sm 0.09g
dmso : 25ml
I think it is a legit SM as it dissolves only in dmso...
Also i'm not doing only SM+DMSO because dmso is very hard on skin... i even feel it on my fingers...
I'll try more one week then go back to minoxidil, what a pity

 

[Valkyyr]

And what is the formulation used in samumed trials?

I never tried dissolving it in anything else than dmso, and it seems that samumed's formulation is also based on dmso because vehicle goup had the same side effects - erythema, glazed apperance of the skin.

Anyway, sm04554 works, but if DMSO is the only vehicle option then good luck with that... I never managed to use it more than two weeks because the redness is massive, it dries your scalp and the stinging after application is annoying as hell. I wonder how powerful it is with prolonged daily use.

 

[FollicleGuardian]

Hi ,
no particular choice, but I tried to dissolve it in everything nothing worked except DMSO, alsmo MUCH DMSO, i even tried to dissolve it in dmso then fill the rest with stemox, you keep it one day then SM solidifies again...
that's why i used to make SM 0.15%
stemox: 35ml
sm 0.09g
dmso : 25ml
I think it is a legit SM as it dissolves only in dmso...
Also i'm not doing only SM+DMSO because dmso is very hard on skin... i even feel it on my fingers...
I'll try more one week then go back to minoxidil, what a pity

1. You use way too much DMSO
2. SM should not solidify again after being dissolved in dmso, where do you store it?
3. You want to quit SM after 3 weeks? Stay on it for at least 3 months, ideally 6 months
4. @John Difool has a nice recipe for a vehicle mix for SM, ask him if he can share it with you

 

[cmoi]

Hello,
1. really? ok will try to lower it
2. I store it in ambient temperature
3. ok i'll try but i'm shedding as hell i'm losing like 150hairs/day
4. Please @John Difool share with me your vehicule recipe : now i have DMSO, Stemox and minoxidil if I can use that
Thank you very much

 

[progresiwe]

hello, I'm writing from the turkey, please wait it is really works sm 04554

 

[nick123]

I wonder if DMSO is a viable long term vehicle though? Many people complain it being an irritant? Surely Samumed has found another more suitable long term vehicle for the final product?

 

[frank33]

I have many years experience in testing hairloss products like a rat:
Oral fina 6 months: worked 100% but huge testo suppression so I stopped.
Topical fina 3 months: same as oral so i stopped
Topical seti for 8 months: it worked 90% but sleep quality very bad, muscle quality as well very bad, and testo suppression so I stopped
CB0301 tested topically: it worked 100% for 3 months then I started shedding + huge brutal testo suppression.. I stopped immediately and it took me 4 months to recover my avg level of testo and libido
just after CB i restarted only minoxidil + microneedling : honestly it works at 70% let's say, the problem hair is growing everywhere, eyebro, shoulder...
and since 2 weeks i started SM and stopped minoxidil: HUGE SHEDDING, I don't know what to do
Thanks

Hey, i think you are experiencing the infamous shedding you get from stopping minoxidil.

I'd suggest taking both (SM and Min)

 

[Valkyyr]

I wonder if DMSO is a viable long term vehicle though? Many people complain it being an irritant? Surely Samumed has found another more suitable long term vehicle for the final product?

Of course not, imagine pouring an industrial grade chemical solvent on your skin for months.... It will probably damage your skin and hair to an extent.

Good news is that sm works really fast and doesn't require sustained use to produce the benefits.

 

[Gegen]

What?

This is coded language to say he was one of the phase 3 patients and went from NW7 to NW1 in 3 days.

 

[cmoi]

Hey, i think you are experiencing the infamous shedding you get from stopping minoxidil.

I'd suggest taking both (SM and Min)

Okay thank you, but for how long should I keep min?

 

[Tom4362]

hello, I'm writing from the turkey, please wait it is really works sm 04554

ne demek istiyorsun?
(Using google translate)

 

[cmoi]

Of course not, imagine pouring an industrial grade chemical solvent on your skin for months.... It will probably damage your skin and hair to an extent.

Good news is that sm works really fast and doesn't require sustained use to produce the benefits.

how it works really fast? when i use minoxidil i shed for 1 week then it sustain.
for sm it's been 3 weeks and still nothing...
Could it be an infamous due to the high dosage of DMSO ?

 

[nick123]

Of course not, imagine pouring an industrial grade chemical solvent on your skin for months.... It will probably damage your skin and hair to an extent.

Good news is that sm works really fast and doesn't require sustained use to produce the benefits.

I wonder how their clinical trial participants are fairing, almost an entire year of daily use of DMSO.

 

[Valkyyr]

how it works really fast? when i use minoxidil i shed for 1 week then it sustain.
for sm it's been 3 weeks and still nothing...
Could it be an infamous due to the high dosage of DMSO ?

I have no idea about shedding, i never shed, finasteride, minoxidil, ru, sm - never caused any shedding, actually quite the opposite - every treatment stops normal Androgenetic Alopecia shedding almost immediately (except minoxidil, which doesn't really do anything at all, i stopped using it long time ago, right now i am only using it to dissolve RU in it).

You might've triggered telogen effluvium with dmso or sm. New compund on the scalp, you never know how your hair will react.

I've used sm dissolved in pure 99,9% DMSO (0.10% volume). Also i mixed some 50/50 with water. Doesn't really help with unpleasant sides but is still effective.

Usually after 1.5 week of use i can feel new hairs forming. Really easy to spot them, very short and coarse. Once they're out and growing they don't disappear. SM brings back your hair from telogen phase in a matter of days. Probably also activates dormant follicles.

 

[frank33]

Okay thank you, but for how long should I keep min?

Unfortunately every time you stop it after a period of usage you will shed and lose your progress.
So either you stop it, or take it forever.

 

[cmoi]

I have no idea about shedding, i never shed, finasteride, minoxidil, ru, sm - never caused any shedding, actually quite the opposite - every treatment stops normal Androgenetic Alopecia shedding almost immediately (except minoxidil, which doesn't really do anything at all, i stopped using it long time ago, right now i am only using it to dissolve RU in it).

You might've triggered telogen effluvium with dmso or sm. New compund on the scalp, you never know how your hair will react.

I've used sm dissolved in pure 99,9% DMSO (0.10% volume). Also i mixed some 50/50 with water. Doesn't really help with unpleasant sides but is still effective.

Usually after 1.5 week of use i can feel new hairs forming. Really easy to spot them, very short and coarse. Once they're out and growing they don't disappear. SM brings back your hair from telogen phase in a matter of days. Probably also activates dormant follicles.

Thanks for the feedback, let's hope it will work on me because i can't use anymore any product that targets the testesterone ( cb, seti, fina, duta...)