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Elon Musk is so overrated as a visionary and intellectual. He is a damn good salesman though. He convinced the world that battery powered cars are a good idea. All he did was create massive malinvestment, and make himself rich at the future's expense. There is new battery tech on the horizon that will make electric cars a good idea, but all this investment in electric cars would've been better off going into fuel cells. Electric power isn't good for the environment. The batteries don't last forever, and the electricity comes from power plants that pollute. And what happens when everyone is driving electric cars? We are going to need a lot more power plants, or electric prices will skyrocket, and the middle class will be turning down the thermostat or parking their vehicle.
I'm glad to hear progress is being made but it's also worth noting that all we'll be maintaning if/when this is released at least two years from now is whatever is still left by then.
If this was out this second, yeah, I'd probably be over the moon - but with how much I've lost in just the past two years, I'm not sure I have much to look forward to.
And let's not count on cumulative results yet - it could be that the max regrowth of around 15% we're seeing with most current and developing treatments is simply just the extent of potentially reversible damage. The effects may cap off there because the rest of the follicles are simply beyond repair - regardless of a treatment's strength or number of sessions.
Man f*** all these talks .. show me visuals .. point A to Point B.
Point A , the mofo got 10 hairs on head
point B , the mofo got 20 hairs on head
Something like that . A picture speaks thousand words
This is Histogen, what are you trying to fool?
This paragraph interesting
“Furthermore,” continued McElwee, “with this 24-month post-injection data, and the availability of patient biopsy material and DSCC, we are now able to commence gene expression analysis with a goal of identifying the differences between products which result in superior responses and those that produce less-than-optimal responses. Ultimately, the goal here is to correlate and optimize cell dose and use repeat treatment sessions to achieve peak efficacy in terms of increased hair density.”
Hopefully they can Figuare out why the responders did respond and why some people had worse results.
I also think this paragraph is VERY important.
They need to find out why the treatment didn't work on some patients. Either this treatment does work or it doesn't work. And if it does work then it should work on everyone IMO. This is not like minoxidil where some juice is being applied to the scalp. In Replicel's case, cells are being injected directly to the follicles and the test subjects should all be either responders or nonresponders. They need to get to the bottom of this.
Man f*** all these talks .. show me visuals ..
A picture speaks thousand words
This is Histogen, what are you trying to fool?
I am sure you will sort it out alone big boys.These pics are unreliable. The patient's head is angled way different and his hair is combed totally different.
So my response is to your inductivity comment... So hypothetically because of inductivity issues replicel may struggle inducing new hair, but what if you used follica to create hundreds of vellus hairs, then used replicel. Would the inductivity issue prevent the dsc cells from developing the cellys hairs into terminal hairs?
Replicel never said they were non-responders, they just had some extra hair loss over baseline and they're saying now their hair loss stabilized too.. If they didn't lose any further hair over the 5 year period (the 5 year data will be released soon) then they did respond.In the 6-month study there were some nonresponders.
If they're saying now that after the 2 1/2 years data ALL patient's hair loss stopped (stayed at least the same as baseline) that may means that there were NO nonresponders. But they need to address this issue because the 6 month data showed some nonresponders.
Histogen "results". Not replicel.
They are not releasing 5 year efficacy data. They stated that they will release 24 month data for efficacy and 5 year data for safety, which they have done now.Replicel never said they were non-responders, they just had some extra hair loss over baseline and they're saying now their hair loss stabilized too.. If they didn't lose any further hair over the 5 year period (the 5 year data will be released soon) then they did respond.
I don't want to criticize you for being negative, but could you take a bit more of a realistic look to the situation? I commend you for your skepticism. We eventually still need to have people do the treatment and show their 1 year result before we know if things actually work. But the upcoming 5 year efficacy study result will be crucial. After that we might get some extra presentations from the Replicel and then in H2 2018 we'll get Shisedo's trial data.