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Mdv3100 (enzalutamide) - Superstrong Antiandrogen Topical

Discussion in 'Antiandrogens - Propecia, Dutasteride, etc.' started by whatevr, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. sunchyme1

    sunchyme1 Senior Member My Regimen

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    assuming no other solutions do ever make it to market and your forced to use aa topicals for the rest of your life (until old age at least), whats your plan when you do eventually get married and have kids?

    or even just casual hook ups?

    i guess with the casual stuff you can always just not apply the stuff the day your meeting up and change your bed sheets etc, but what about long term relationships?

    ive always thought about this when thinking about ru.
     
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    IdealForehead Senior Member My Regimen

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    I don't plan to get married or have kids. A topical antiandrogen would pose no significant health risk to a nonpregnant woman sharing your bed. If she got some transfer she might suffer a bit of antiandrogenic side effects eg. from something as strong as daro/enza, but it would likely be a tiny amount of exposure and be out of her system in 1-2 days. I wouldn't worry too much about that, although changing the sheets so at least they're fresh would be a good strategy.

    One idea I rattled around in my head when I was thinking about all this would be to wrap your head in a turban each night before bed. If you had 7-14 "turbans" you could use a new one every night, and then wash them as a batch every 1-2 weeks so they are always fresh and not exposed to other clothing.

    I think this would actually work very well to avoid transfer to the sheets and any long term partner you're sharing with. But you'd have to explain to everyone why you are wearing a turban to go to sleep. And it wouldn't solve the bathroom transfer issues, or the amount that might be transferred generally when daro/enza/RU-soaked hair sheds naturally around the house, etc.

    Topical antiandrogens are a method of last resort, and to me, this is the main reason why. If it wasn't for these theoretical risks and the difficulty of getting around them, topical antiandrogens would be the hands down best method to treat hair loss for almost everyone.
     
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  3. Maxxorr

    Maxxorr Established Member My Regimen

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    That stuff is amazing. We are testing it at alopezie.de and people are having great results with it. Also it has many advantages over RU: it is FDA-approved, existing safety profile, it is well-studied and well-understood and it is very potent! All in all great stuff. The thing that is not so great about it is the price ^^
     
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    Maxxorr Established Member My Regimen

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    Maybe we should write them (ASTELLAS AND MEDIVATION) and promote it as hair loss treatment :D
     
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    Maxxorr Established Member My Regimen

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    Where do you buy that stuff?
     
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    rclark Senior Member My Regimen

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    You are a crazy Mother Fucker! LOL.
     
  7. JLF

    JLF Established Member My Regimen

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    Could you give us some information about the results on the german forum, pls?
    Do you know the vehicle / dose / frequency / ...?
    Pictures maybe?
    Thnx!
    we buy it from alibaba by the way...
     
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    SpaceInvader Established Member My Regimen

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    I'm doing 50 mg of this in a DMSO/PEG-300/Ethanol vehicle along with around 7 mg of ODM a few hours apart.
     
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    JLF Established Member My Regimen

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    What is your experience with 50mg a day?
    Im doing 30 for now, so a bit less.
    But we're still using a lot less than kawnshawn.
    @kawnshawn how are you doing till now?
     
  10. Aethas

    Aethas Established Member My Regimen

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    Wait, wait

    What i've read this drug would make your hair permanently immune to dht since it make the adn to replicate without the receptor?!???
     
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    Jonnyyy Senior Member My Regimen

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    I saw that somewhere too, that's why I kept calling it the cure lol, it's just a theory so far, imagine regrowing your hair completely and getting off this and not losing any hair after.
     
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    SpaceInvader Established Member My Regimen

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    Where did you guys read this?
     
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    kiwipilu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    you can wash you hair/scalp when it's dry/ fully absorbed then go bed right ^^?!
    btw as potent as this drug looks to be you don't have to apply it every day.
    and what about polichem or h&w ? there must be something of interest in their vehicle?
     
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    Jonnyyy Senior Member My Regimen

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    I tried finding it but I couldn't now, I can't remember what I searched to find it.
     
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    Aethas Established Member My Regimen

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    The way this thing works, check out the few first comment of this forum and you'll see it
     
  16. SpaceInvader

    SpaceInvader Established Member My Regimen

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    Where are said results?

    Because Nemesis and Habeeby don't claim anything.

    As for me, I'm using both MDV and ODM, so if those results are true, this should already be overkill, but so far that doesn't seem like it. So roll out the BIG FUCKING GUNS.
     
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    SpaceInvader Established Member My Regimen

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    Yeah, I read that too. It says it prevents AR interaction with DNA. Not sure how you interpreted that as permanent immunity, but I did think so too at first. Anyone know if this is true?
     
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  18. SpaceInvader

    SpaceInvader Established Member My Regimen

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    Everything sounds good on paper, but in reality it doesn't mean shit.

    It isn't until you test it you can get verifiable results.
     
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    Maxxorr Established Member My Regimen

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    Go on the german forum and read for yourself...
     
  20. Maxxorr

    Maxxorr Established Member My Regimen

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    Yes, in theory. Let's hope it holds up....
     
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