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Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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  1. paxis

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    When you are wating for the brotzu, tsuji and co, but the cure already exists... Where can I get these treasures
     
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    Good news everyone Fidia finally released a statement. Yup they said they're taking all of us out for dinner, because they want to at least wine and dine us before they fully decide to fuck us.
     
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    pubmed:
    J Dermatolog Treat. 2017 Jun 29:1-3. doi: 10.1080/09546634.2017.1341610. [Epub ahead of print]
    A preliminary study on topical cetirizine in the therapeutic management of androgenetic alopecia.
    Rossi A1, Campo D2, Fortuna MC1, Garelli V1, Pranteda G1, De Vita G3, Sorriso-Valvo L3, Di Nunno D1, Carlesimo M1.
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    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:
    Androgenetic alopecia (Androgenetic Alopecia) is a common form of scalp hair loss that affects up to 50% of males between 18 and 40 years old. Several molecules are commonly used for the treatment of Androgenetic Alopecia, acting on different steps of its pathogenesis (Minoxidil, Finasteride, Serenoa repens) and show some side effects. In literature, on the basis of hypertrichosis observed in patients treated with analogues of prostaglandin PGF2a, it was supposed that prostaglandins would have an important role in the hair growth: PGE and PGF2a play a positive role, while PGD2 a negative one.
    OBJECTIVE:
    We carried out a pilot study to evaluate the efficacy of topical cetirizine versus placebo in patients with Androgenetic Alopecia.
    PATIENTS AND METHODS:
    A sample of 85 patients was recruited, of which 67 were used to assess the effectiveness of the treatment with topical cetirizine, while 18 were control patients.
    RESULTS:
    We found that the main effect of cetirizine was an increase in total hair density, terminal hair density and diameter variation from T0 to T1, while the vellus hair density shows an evident decrease. The use of a molecule as cetirizine, with no notable side effects, makes possible a good compliance by patients.
    CONCLUSION:
    Our results have shown that topical cetirizine 1% is responsible for a significant improvement of the initial framework of Androgenetic Alopecia.
    KEYWORDS:
    Androgenetic alopecia; PGD2; PGE2; cetirizine; prostaglandin

    Mechanism of action of herbs and their active constituents used in hair loss treatment.
    Herman A1, Herman AP2.
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    This article discusses the mechanisms via topically applied products containing herbs and their active constituents affect the hair growth process. It was reported that the mechanisms involving (1) insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I), (2) vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), (3) epidermal growth factor (EGF), (4) fibroblast growth factor 2 (FGF-2), (5) endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS), (6) Wnt/β-catenin signalling pathway, (7) prostaglandin E (PGE), (8) prostaglandin F (PGF) stimulate hair growth, whereas the mechanisms engaging (1) 5α-reductase and dihydrotestosterone (DHT), (2) transforming growth factor beta (TGF-β), (3) fibroblast growth factor 5 (FGF-5), (4) prostaglandin D2 (PGD2) inhibit hair growth. The knowledge summarized in the paper may be an inspiration to create new preparations for the treatment of hair loss.
     
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    What can this possibly mean?
    The research he linked is Italian.
    Is he citing it as a basis that PGE2 works or this means a new formula with citrizine? It may take ages if that is the case.

    HE'S BACK!!!!
     
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    Whats bep's relation to the lotion again ??

    Dude pretty sure that study has been linked before multiple times when talking about cetirizine so its nothing new. Fairly sure the verdict was that it inhibits both PGD2 and PGE2 so not ideal..
     
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    Trial stab
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    The stability trial is at the final stages.
     
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    you deceived us? You did not use Brotzu lotion? or lotion does not work? What's with Fidia? why did you put this text here? What is the meaning of life?
     
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    We got our own Beps wtf?!?
     
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    @beps63 Do you mean that the stability trials of the Brotzu lotion is in its final stages ?
     
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    So the brotzu lotion is topical ceterizine ?xD
     
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    or @beps63 advertises all Italian studies in foreign forums..
     
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    What means final stages? How many more years?
     
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    I suppose Beps maybe saw us getting increasingly more impatient with Fidia (just like he is) and decided to give us the info that he can/is allowed to. I don't know how long the ''final stages'' of stability tests take but if they are still testing that means this is still a few months out I suppose
     
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    @beps63 as someone already asked: Do you mean that The Brotzu Lotion is in the final stability trial?

    Thanks
     
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    I'm scared that maybe the stability of the old actual lotion was too bad to be marketed, so Fidia had to change up the formula and ingredients in order to still market some lotion..
     
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    @beps63 can you be more specific ?
     
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    Wouldnt that take all the fun out of this thread?o_O
     
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    I don't know what does that study on cetirizine mean in this thread. I really really hope it was not posted with an intention like: "hey look! This study shows a correlation with Androgenetic Alopecia and Prostaglandins and VEGF! Be ready to buy Brotzu Lotion without thinking twice when it will be available!"
    I can't understand why Beps posted this, but frankly if he wanted to advertise the lotion he shouldn't have posted the useless cetirizine, but a lot of studies regarding prostaglandins which I however already posted months ago. I don't know the correlation between cetirizine and Brotzu aside from VEGF; PGF2 is also involved which is a lot different than PGE1 and DGLA. Cetirizine is preecribed topically in Minoxidil mixtures by some italian dermatologists and the users say that it does jackshit, even though reading the studies it may seem the cure.
    Not to shit on the doctor's parade, but given the extraordinary results of WuWei on IESON, it seems more and more to me that the key in the lotion is not DGLA or his interaction with the other ingredients, but the Equol itself. Also many IESON members think this way, mainly because Equol was never tried specifically, not even with the cathionic liposomes, not even topically!
    But why Beps is talking about this? Wtf is happening?

    What does this mean? Stability trials of what, Brotzu Lotion? If it is so, March release sounds nearly impossible, also since the lot of delays that we already saw from FIDIA, a fucking slow company.
    So, Italian hair loss lotion to hit the market in 2019?
    Beps, do you know if FIDIA will release an official statement soon? Didn't the doctor himself already solved for FIDIA the stability problem this year?
    Does this freaking lotion work on Androgenetic Alopecia or not???


    Side note, the forums and FB groups regarding Brotzu lotion are repopulating, it feels good in a certain way to feel a tiny bit of the last year's big hype. :)
     
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    I've been hearing about this WuWei doctor or whatever for a long time now, are his results still available to view ? Also i've heard that he has been using other meds too.
     

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