Hollywood Romance Expert And Feminist Aziz Ansari Alleged To Be A Violator Of Women

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She's above average but nothing amazing. Warm/cute looking at most. I've dated and get attention from more beautiful/sexy girls and she pales in comparison.

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I don't think she's that attractive tbh. That's why men are 100% better than women, we all have different tastes in women, some even take it too far and prefer chubby ones. She may be attractive in your eyes, but in mine she's not and another girl may be attractive in my eyes, but in yours not. But all women prefer the same characteristics and you'll never ever find a woman who likes short or bald men for example.

Post examples who you find more attractive
 

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It's a silly term! Things get taken too far online but you need some looks to get hot girls interested. Also an ability to form a genuine connection. I remember you saying your personality was holding you back at times with girls.

Yeah man I'm a f*****g weirdo. Still hook up with okay looking girls here and there though.
 

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How tall and/or handsome are you? Can you get matches or dates using Tinder? Useless to say this without further info.

I base comments not only on scientific data but also the past 20 years of my life. I am probably overall within one point of total attractiveness as Aziz, as I am also shorter than average, nonwhite, small in build, and I have a subpar face.

The YouTube video he posted of his experiences in bars matches mine.

And what whitepolarbear says about not being able to use wit, intelligence, or charisma (of which I have plenty more than average) to overcome a significant looks deficit matches my experience too. The only exception is if a girl knows you for 6-9 months or more, rarely she can come to like you more than you would otherwise expect. But this is not a reliable strategy for getting women.

There is wit, intelligence and charisma, and there is the type of wit, intelligence and charisma that appeals to women. You don't strike me as the type to have A grade banter and you constantly act as if women aren't interested before you even make an effort and in general suggest things are harder than they actually are, so its blatantly obvious you're not going to be charismatic when you make clear on this forum you have no faith in yourself. Just lol.

"It's almost always BS though. Girls have needs, and when they find a guy they really like, they'll want to have sex with him as fast as possible. Also, she'll be afraid that if she doesn't put out fast enough, the guy who's perceived as high-value will just move on to another girl, which he will."

Everything Bear has said is blatantly accurate too. Anyone who has even mild experience and understanding of how women typically interact in regards to dating know hes accurate to a t regarding speed of interaction.

"The only exception is if a girl knows you for 6-9 months or more, rarely she can come to like you more than you would otherwise expect. But this is not a reliable strategy for getting women."

This is outright hilarious. I don't know a single guy who made things work after 6-9 months of inaction. Strike when the iron is hot, and that is often within days to minutes.
 

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She is an 8 in my book and even better in some pics. Absolutely delicious and adorable. Unless you're the type to prefer plastic looking low IQ basic b****s she is amazing.
I think you have the barrier too low.
She's maximum a 6 to my eyes.
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It's a silly term! Things get taken too far online but you need some looks to get hot girls interested. Also an ability to form a genuine connection. I remember you saying your personality was holding you back at times with girls.

Some looks? Dude, from everything you say you're top 10% total looks, maybe top 5% or even higher. Your experiences will not match 90%+ of men's.

90%+ of men do not get women overtly staring at them in public for a positive reason.

Certainly a guy like Aziz Ansari would never get girls this attractive without fame, paying the girl, a massive investment of months of getting to know her first, or incredible luck. And there's at least a billion other guys on the planet roughly the same height, comparably unattractive in their race, and of similar facial unattractiveness.

There are way more guys like Aziz than there are guys like you. (For my part I'm one of them.)
 

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There is wit, intelligence and charisma, and there is the type of wit, intelligence and charisma that appeals to women. You don't strike me as the type to have A grade banter and you constantly act as if women aren't interested before you even make an effort and in general suggest things are harder than they actually are, so its blatantly obvious you're not going to be charismatic when you make clear on this forum you have no faith in yourself. Just lol.

"It's almost always BS though. Girls have needs, and when they find a guy they really like, they'll want to have sex with him as fast as possible. Also, she'll be afraid that if she doesn't put out fast enough, the guy who's perceived as high-value will just move on to another girl, which he will."

Everything Bear has said is blatantly accurate too. Anyone who has even mild experience and understanding of how women typically interact in regards to dating know hes accurate to a t regarding speed of interaction.

"The only exception is if a girl knows you for 6-9 months or more, rarely she can come to like you more than you would otherwise expect. But this is not a reliable strategy for getting women."

This is outright hilarious. I don't know a single guy who made things work after 6-9 months of inaction. Strike when the iron is hot, and that is often within days to minutes.

You wouldn't be able to judge my irl personality from my online one here. Most of my posts here are just me complaining and being overly analytical.

Irl I'm pretty fun, outgoing, and popular. I remember once my tall white handsome buddy and I in high school were talking three way to a whole bunch of girls he had gotten the numbers from on the phone each night (pre texting era). All the girls would find me incredibly hilarious and say they love talking to me. That's why my buddy wanted me on the line too. Then they'd meet me and be like wut.

If I could date in the dark I'd do very well. My job depends on my social skills as well and I'm highly successful at it.

As for the months thing that has happened to me at university many times where after a semester or so of laughing at my jokes or teasing a girl she all of a sudden starts looking at me differently and we have dated. It's very hard to overcome looks but it can be done with luck and/or a lot of work.
 

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Especially when you discover the truth about dating.

If a girl likes you, everything will go very quickly, from f*****g her at the back of their car to having to wait for the second date because she has to ask her roommates if it's OK to bring a stranger first (both real examples from my own life).

It goes fast because they want the same thing as you, so why the hell would they pretend to need to know you more or play hard to get? Men who don't have a lot of experience with women and don't know it's supposed to go that fast will believe the girl when she says she needs time.

It's almost always BS though. Girls have needs, and when they find a guy they really like, they'll want to have sex with him as fast as possible. Also, she'll be afraid that if she doesn't put out fast enough, the guy who's perceived as high-value will just move on to another girl, which he will.

Some of my incel friends will often find it hard to believe me, or when they realize that it's real, they'll blow up in flames and say that I disrespect women by making the interaction move so fast.

Once you've experienced that a few times, there's no going back, and if a woman tells you that "she's not like that" and that she needs time, you'll be sure to raise an eyebrow. Some men are gullible enough to think that a long-term plan will work though:

"I just need to be patient and woo her a little every day, and then maybe in 3 months, I'll ask her out, and maybe 3 months later, we'll have sex!"

Not how human mating works.

Good post. However I would that as long as some kind of intimate act (e.g., making out, blow job, etc.) happens during the first encounter you're probably safe. It seems like a lot of girls in my age range have been ghosted so they always play it "safe." Or I'm just an ugly cuck and they don't want to have sex with me, who knows.
 

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Post women who you f*** and I'll believe that it's not just poor taste or too much optimism on your own conquests.
I'll regard your demand to post pics of girls i dated as rhetorical,since i can't do that obviously.
But to give you an example, i would pick Rooney Mara over Irina Shayk anytime.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 

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I'll regard your demand to post pics of girls i dated as rhetorical,since i can't do that obviously.
But to give you an example, i would pick Rooney Mara over Irina Shayk anytime.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Rooney Mara is a 9 to me while Irina is a 7. Still think the Anzari girl is an 8.

I was half joking about posting them but at the same time I don't get why you couldn't.
 

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Good post. However I would that as long as some kind of intimate act (e.g., making out, blow job, etc.) happens during the first encounter you're probably safe. It seems like a lot of girls in my age range have been ghosted so they always play it "safe." Or I'm just an ugly cuck and they don't want to have sex with me, who knows.

But to add to this, if no intimate acts of any sort occur after 3 dates it's GAME OVER CUCK
 

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If you don't make out with her on the first date, it's over.

If you don't have sex by the second date while there are no real barriers (like not having a place to do it), it's over.

Waiting up to three dates to get intimate can happen, but in my experience, that scenario was the exception.

And of course, there are many failing scenarios: first date that lead to the girl saying "it was nice, see you next time." (there is never a next time). Then there are the girls with who you have like 5 or 6 dates and every time there is 0 sexual tension, and of course it leads nowhere, but you're like "on a misunderstanding, maybe it will work all of a sudden."

And then you have the girl asking you if you want to enter a polyamorous relationship because there's this guy she really likes and doesn't want to lose him by entering an exclusive relationship. I agreed. It was nice being a cuck for a couple of weeks. This was of course during my slick NW5 period. No miracles.

Damn, I would run away after the 3rd date and take the hint lmao.
 

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Ah being the funny social guy without meeting the required looks threshold, it can be brutal.

One of the funniest guy I know is also the ugliest, and I don't say that to be mean, girls have made a disgusted face when I showed them his picture. The guy is very, very fun to be around and plenty of girls would invite him to their parties. They wanted him around for his capacity to steal the show and make everyone laugh. That's as a far as he could go though.

One time, I had a beer with him and he poured out all his frustrations, that he tried to approach a few female acquaintances we had in common and not only did they reject him, they absolutely destroyed his reputation and had to try not to laugh at him for even thinking he ever had a chance. The level of resentment he was exhibiting was pretty dark, he was even talking about beating them up.

One of the girls he thought he had a chance with was fat, and I remember her friend come up to me a few days after we met to tell me that she found me cute. And all I did the day we met was to stand there on the side, saying nothing. Too bad I wasn't a chubby chaser (at the time, just kidding I never was :rolleyes:).

Nailed it. I make an incredible wingman and I've gotten many better looking friends laid because they would have otherwise been too awkward to open or maintain the conversation, but that's about it.

Can't get replies on Tinder or POF or Match (more than one reply - rarely I'll get one reply but nothing past that). 90%+ (real percent from hundreds to thousands of cold approaches back when I was doing PUA stuff to try to 'overcome' this issue) of girls I try to talk to in bars or clubs would just look at me rudely and not allow the conversation past 20 seconds or so no matter how I approached it unless I had a good looking buddy with me that they wanted instead.

People can say I'm overanalytical, but I only came to be this way after years of my results not matching my better looking friends' and being unable to close that gap with as many strategies as I could reasonably apply. Advice only goes so far. If you're unattractive you're unattractive.

I also know from having jaw surgery once before and going from a 1-2/10 facially to a 3-4/10 facially in the span of one summer vacation while at university how dramatically people treat you different based on your looks. Once you've lived that, you can't unlive it. I thought male looks were pretty unimportant until that. And years in nightclubs.
 

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She is an 8 in my book and even better in some pics. Absolutely delicious and adorable. Unless you're the type to prefer plastic looking low IQ basic b****s she is amazing.

What does "basic b**ch" mean?
 

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This is outright hilarious. I don't know a single guy who made things work after 6-9 months of inaction. Strike when the iron is hot, and that is often within days to minutes.

It happened to me once. I know of a few cases where that happened too.

It's very context dependent though.
 

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Very fit and lean gym sl*t, sleeps around a lot, thinks very short term, has no interests beyond socialising, beauty and outfits, conventionally attractive and very fine, feminine features but a dime a dozen.

I envy the ease with which you feel comfortable discarding such women as replaceable units.
 

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@IdealForehead ,

What I can asses of your non-looks is that you are strikingly intelligent, you communicate clearly, you're a giving person, you work hard, and both your income and wealth are noticeably above average. You're also not an emotional eunuch, you do actually feel things and you can feel disappointment and anger when appropriate, but you do so in a proportional level, without turning into a psycho. You can discuss and debate things on this forum with supporting arguments from both reason and experience, and you do so without being a condescending a**h** as is typical on the internet.

Those are strong, positive traits. You would certainly be doing fabulously with women if general blue pill ideology was a correct description of the world. You were dismissed as not having confidence, but you do show confidence in some contexts: you're willing to shift your financial investments, you trust in your ability to learn of fairly esoteric cosmetics procedures and obscure pharmaceuticals, these are meaningful indicators. There is also confidence in acknowledging one's failures and limitations: most men cannot do so.

As for not getting matches on PoF and Match, I used to get rare matches and dates on PoF and eHarmony. I don't see myself trying at those locations again as they're turning into ghost towns. These women aren't even logging in to reject us in the first place.
 
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