Going Bald In Less Than A Year, Need Advice

[Who Farted]

There is no way he has androgenetic alopecia. Finasteride is not working for him and he had juvenile hairline. Individuals with juvenile hairlines are NOT susceptible to androgenetic alopecia and never get this type of hair loss.

I’m going to go ahead and give the litany of specialists he has seen the benefit of the doubt and say they wouldn’t diagnose him by mistake. He doesn’t have it as horrific as most and he’s fortunate to only be feeling the effects now and consequently, looks better than pretty much everyone in his age group, but he’s got it.

But, regardless of that, you can absolutely lose your hair to AA, even with a juvenile hairline that lasts into adulthood. It’s rare that anyone keeps that hairline through adulthood, It’s a tiny fraction of men to begin with, which makes the fraction of that who lose their hair an even smaller number, and the fraction of those who go full bald renders it even smaller.

So yes, it’s extremely rare for it to happen, but that’s a function of how few there are with that hairline to begin with. Technically every person who experiences AA deteriorates from a juvenile hairline. AA is a function of genetics; there’s no set activation date and there’s no way of knowing the form it will take or the end result of the process.

Telogen Effluvium is making him think things are way worse than they are, but for someone at his age who hasn’t experienced it before and has an AA diagnosis, that is understandable. Add in his personality type and the subjective value he places on his hair and where he’s at makes even more sense.

The worst nightmare for a Type A personality is an unanticipated problem that they can’t solve; anxiety induced by unforeseen circumstances paired with a total lack of control is their version of the 9th circle of hell. Every member of my family, other than myself, is a full blown Type A. Every time I see something like this play out, I better appreciate how fortunate I am to have been cut from the Type B cloth.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Proctor said we lose an average of 10% of density per decade which matches with what Konior told you. If you happen to have way above average density, thickness, and jet black hair, that 10% won't become noticeable for almost 50 years if you think about it. For me, it became noticeable because I never had way above average density, nor jet black hair and my hair is fine in caliber. At least, you don't have any major recession. I don't either but you got me beat. You and @Northface32 have the best hair of the forum. You both have that uber thick jet black hair with above average density. I think @Wolf Pack is up there too with you guys post transplant.

Just had a quick look. He has top tier hair characteristics, very light balding if any at all, no greys or very little I think, great skin - perfect for someone approaching his mid 40s right? I agree with your previous post, he needs to focus elsewhere and get help, he's not going to bald noticeably due to his genetics and if it accelerates a little he can take meds or get a transplant. What is the big deal?? I have thicker black hair since you ask and with no greys but I am around decade younger than him. I'm hoping finasteride can maintain it since my pattern is very limited thankfully. It's maintained it for 5 years, why not indefinitely?

Hair characteristics matter but not the be all and end all imo D0c. Check out full head girls in their 20s which is like almost 100% - they can have paper thin blonde hair or thick black hair or something in between - always looks great when styled well with products and withstands light. I don't think it's any different for guys to look good with hair, just don't lose it anywhere which is the problem for us men. I've seen girls like a guy's hair even if it's really thin blonde or thick and dark - makes little difference. Key is not to have any hair loss lol! I don't think greys matter at all because you can dye it if needed (easy job once a month or so as you know) or you can show the greys. I know pretty girls who like considerably older guys with salt and pepper hair - key is looks (with skin/ageing genetics) and be in shape.

 

[bluecyclone]

Thanks all for the discourse on this. It has been helpful. I deserve the psychological analysis as I’ve put out some insane thinking here.

The surprise, speed, and lack of benefit for huge efforts is what has me most twisted over this situation. I debated for a year before starting Finasteride and when I did only to get sides and no benefits really sent me over the edge. I’m pretty sure it also exacerbated the depression side of this.

inly the lifestyle thing, no I am not yet married. But my life is far far from empty because of it. I’ve led a global NGO for years worked all over the world, in war zones and in nature. 15 marathons and amazing relationships. I’m excited about marriage and I think you are correct if I had children I would shave my head and not look back.

as of now I just want to gain some control over the situation like the majority of people on treatment seem to manage.

Mon a positive not I did 2 Iron IV’s December and January. Ferritin rose from 28 (50-400 reference range) to 320. I think it helped the Telogen Effluvium.

what’s weird is my front was solid until I started Finasteride and the crown where this all started seems more stable. I’m going to through some RU back at this since my testosterone has gone up considerably. Anyway I had king though ferritin stores were an issue and it seems to be the case in some way. Oddly enough my Iron actually dropped after the IVs. Thyroid has been optimal for about a year now.

Open to other ideas. Since weighing topical Dutasteride with the HCG to fight sides.

 

[Derelict]

Have you thought about increasing your oral minoxidil to 2.5 or 5mg?

 

[bluecyclone]

Been on 5mg for 10 months, no change, no additional body hair, no sides though my eyes don’t look like I’m 25 like they did before this shot started. I think the HCG is wreaking havoc but without the Finasteride sides make me miserable. It’s a pointless attempt at balance. Hoping maybe the RU and CB if I can get some might help at the follicles...

a doctor suggested HGH because my IGF-1 was low. Seems dangerous but said it’s proven to help hair growth. Anyone?

 

[bluecyclone]

If I had a short haircut I think I’d be a Norwood 3 with massive diffuse loss. There is no density left but the long hairs cover a lot so you can’t see how sparse the hair is. It was never like this. Since October it’s been a train wreck. No Telogen Effluvium just dying or dead hairs of all lengths with regrowing that his maybe an inch or two then falls out.

doctors have ignored me for years and I’ve lost so much f*****g hair so f*****g fast.

 

[TomRiddle]

Norwood 3 btw lol

 

[bluecyclone]

Norwood actually a 1 but diffuse AF everywhere. I can wrap it up and fake decent hair but it just pulls more out ever time.

 

[TomRiddle]

Norwood actually a 1 but diffuse AF everywhere. I can wrap it up and fake decent hair but it just pulls more out ever time.

Lol, idk dude, i really wonder what would you do with a really Norwood 3. I mean no disrespect but i really think you need therapy and a vacation to chill a little and get out of this bad mindset.

And wtf you mean by fake decent hair? You really have more than decent hair, it's true that it's something going on when it's wet, but it does not look like male pattern baldness, i really think it's something else but who tf knows what and why if doctors don't know

 

[Derelict]

Have you thought about dutasteride yet? your hair loss just might be too aggressive for finasteride, whether topical or oral. Your hair still isn't that bad for your age, dutasteride might help stabilize things. Ru is pretty weak on it's own but when combined with finasteride should be helpful, maybe give that a try before thinking about duta.

 

[Baldingdane]

Norwood actually a 1 but diffuse AF everywhere. I can wrap it up and fake decent hair but it just pulls more out ever time.

diffuse AF haha, you got me laughing there mate

 

[Mitko1]

Your hair is fine bro. Stop repeating the same thing over and over again and stop posting images. You don't have androgenetic alopecia. Probably chronic telogen effluvium which might be a side effect of the drugs you are/were taking or you were misdiagnosed and your thyroid is still not working properly.

 

[Vannacci]

Here is my testimony. I started Oral minoxidil (6 drops of kirkland minoxidil in the morning) in May 2019 (First picture) because I was scary of hairloss even if it wasn't too bad. Im 20yo

So I had a huge shedding first month but then guys, it was incredible, I passed from 80 hairs/day to 5/hairs and i'm not lying. My hair was thicker than ever I was getting regrowth everywhere.

I can say that I had body hair growth, even my mom told me that I was getting hairy wtf. I didn't stop until 6 month because I had to muche fatigue and darck circles (October 2019), I have still no hairloss until these days because the hairs that growed are in the terminal phase but I maybe should get back on treatment in my life, as my dad doesn't have a lot for hairs.

Good luck

 

[bluecyclone]

Should I try Topical Dutasteride?

Add Bimatprost or Latanprost to my topcial Finasteride?

I’m still thinning fast on 1% topical Finasteride (17 months), 5 mg oral minoxidil (2 years) and 100mg RU daily (one week)

 

[bluecyclone]

Every shower still leaves me with around 300-400 hairs. My overall density is gone and I waves of miniaturization at the hairline that show just how much is falling and trying to grow back under the influence of DHT.

Is topical Dutasteride worth a try? I have not responded to Finasteride and I already deal with sides. I am beyond desperate and never thought it could go this fast. Looking back I should have been happy these last 6 months have been a nightmare.

 

[ScaredOfBalding]

And still a full head of hair, nothing changed.

 

[Ray Baz]

@bluecyclone i wouldnt say thats to far gone. you can still salvage that and grow more. Try adding a topical saw palmetto and castor oil mix to your scalp daily. and come back to me in 3months once it has really worked its magic in there.

 

[bluecyclone]

DHT rest shot in from 20 to 43

Still using a ton of Topical Finasteride Daily now adding RU, nothing works and I am suicidal.

Have an Rx now for HGH already spending 2000.00 on doctors and drugs. I was f*****g healthy as f*** three years ago.

I have negligent doctors telling me it’s a chronic Telogen Effluvium when the hair is thick as f*** on the back. Other doctors only want to sell their shitty PRP.

 

[Ray Baz]

DHT rest shot in from 20 to 43

Still using a ton of Topical Finasteride Daily now adding RU, nothing works and I am suicidal.

Have an Rx now for HGH already spending 2000.00 on doctors and drugs. I was f*****g healthy as f*** three years ago.

I have negligent doctors telling me it’s a chronic Telogen Effluvium when the hair is thick as f*** on the back. Other doctors only want to sell their shitty PRP.

Don't get down about it @bluecyclone it will get better but for your stress levels try the natural supplement Ashwagandha, its good for lowering stress (cortisol) levels which results in less hair loss from stress.

The RU i tried was ok but didnt work as well as everyones saying. and the more research i do on it the more i seem to find the same guy with 100 different usernames telling people how good it is, i wouldnt be surprised if his real name is KANE.

Try the onion juice and zinc/b6 that always works better than finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil.

 

[Tom4362]

DHT rest shot in from 20 to 43

Still using a ton of Topical Finasteride Daily now adding RU, nothing works and I am suicidal.

Have an Rx now for HGH already spending 2000.00 on doctors and drugs. I was f*****g healthy as f*** three years ago.

I have negligent doctors telling me it’s a chronic Telogen Effluvium when the hair is thick as f*** on the back. Other doctors only want to sell their shitty PRP.

Accept that you are losing hair. Nothing else that you can do at this point in time.

Get a grip.