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Discussion in 'The Impact of Hair Loss' started by JohnsonDDG, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. blackg

    blackg Senior Member

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    Well said. The majority of people do fall into this average category, just like you stated.
    And these folks are more then capable of improving their life position if they choose to .

    The percentage of "dumb" and "unable to be educated" people is often overstated by the less exposed to real life members of this forum.

    You can easily pick the type.. those that have been blessed with a relatively privileged pathway in life.
    So it's understandable that their exposure to "stupid" people is mostly in the form of fictional caricatures.
    Hence the over simplification when discussing this subject.
     
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    Calchas Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Yeah,i'm constantly shifting between looking like Danny Devito and Brad Pitt.
    I'm constantly shifting between being a good and giving guy and a parasitic scumbag.

    I just wanted to defend individualism with this comment.
    The fact that all people have equal rights and equal opportunities,doesn't mean that
    they are the same and have the same needs and capabilities.
    The centre doesn't eliminate the edges
     
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    Always the extremes.
    Now the centre may not eliminate the edges, but large centre, by its very nature.. LARGE, renders those on the edges, sadly, irrelevant.
     
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    Calchas Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Well guess what..It's the edges that rule and define the world of the centre.
    Only 1% of the population has supermodel proportions,and the rest 99% is trying in vain to look like them.
    Only 1% is moving the strings of economy,technology,sciences and the 99% is following.
    Also,the most edgial cases of people are surprisingly the most interesting and charismatic.
     
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    blackg Senior Member

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    I agree with this mostly. The most interesting music to me is usually on the edges and even the films I prefer are never the mainstream blockbuster types.

    But back to the argument...

    I'm talking about the so-called ugly people on the edges of society. And even the low IQ folks that occupy the edges.
    My argument was that unfortunately these people are left behind by those in the centre. The majority!
    The average pack.

    The the majority are always looking up. Aspiring to be like the blessed few.
    The lucky one or two percent of humans that are gifted genetically, be it with good looks or extreme intelligence (like@ Afro_Vacancy).
     
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    Interaction with jerks on the internet like the one I've interacted with have nothing to do with interaction between proffesional and a patient.

    Also patients don't behave like that, usually they're well mannered, even a psychologist would scold someone for rude behavior.

    And my empathy stops where idiots begin.
     
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    Do you even know how to read what vanity in the dictionary means? :D
    It's defined as EXCESSIVE PRIDE in your abilities, achievements or appearance. Synonims are conceit, arrogance. Excessive pride means you're so proud that you're good looking or succesful or rich that you become conceited. It's good to be proud about your abilities, achievements or appearance but to be excessively proud means you're conceited.
    That is what vanity means.
    http://www.sirc.org/publik/mirror.html

    Other understandings of the word come from sect of Christianity where vanity in the Bible means emptiness, futility of earthly things. Bible condemned human quest for beauty as emptiness, meaninglesness (Vanity). But that's just Bible morality and perspective, they hate everthing material and everything on this Earth, they're advocates of after life and only soul matters to them. It's specific Bible morality and they even invented a sin of emptiness (Vanity) where they said : https://www.spiritualdirection.com/2010/04/26/how-can-i-identify-my-root-sin

    So if someone calls you "vain" (empty) because you care about being beautiful that is Christian vocabulary and their brainwashing from their sect.
     
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    Yeah I guess that's why there's so much emphasis on the resurrection of the body.

    I was wrong about the definition of vanity (I picked one of the definitions, actually), but you're wrong about Christianity.

    There are some hints in Christianity that you shouldn't take pride in something that's down to the luck of the draw, like your looks.

    Picking on religion doesn't make you look smart by the way, I also thought it did when I was an atheist, but this as low-hanging fruit as you can get.

    That's not where you should look to explain why people think caring about one's hair is vaine. I don't think people truly believe what they say when they pretend it's vain, you can just see it on their faces and if you dare to challenge them on it, God help you.

    That's when they snap at you and tell you that you're obsessed and that you need help, or some variant of that. The importance of looks is not an easy subject to discuss, just like anything that's not really under our control, like intelligence for example. People like to believe that we all have the same chances no matter our level of looks, intelligence or talents.

    Yes, a balding man will be fucked in many ways, and that's uncomfortable to think about so let's just pour out platitude like "it's just hair" or "caring about hair is vain". People call you vain because they'd like you to put on a fake smile and pretend that you're fine so they can keep their naive worldview unscathed.

    Just agree that it's vain and collect your hundreds of reddit upvotes.
     
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    Purpose:Dissection of Vanity

    Materials and methods:Capitalizing on material goods(buying expensive things not because you need them,but to show that you're rich).
    Embellishing your appearance with artificial means(make-up,plastic surgery,fake hair etc.)

    Results:Vanity results from loss of one's sense of mortality and of the finiteness of things.
    In some cases,vanity formation results from adding more value into something than its actual value.

    Recommendation:Being content with the temporarity of things,avoiding pain and maximizing pleasure.

    Conclusions:
    Vai cercando qua, vai cercando là
    Ma quando la morte ti coglierà
    Che ti resterà delle tue voglie?
    Vanità di vanità

     
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    I am wrong about Christianity? :D How so? :D Cause I provided evidence of how they invented the sin of emptiness (vanity)? :D

    Luckily I hang out only with atheists and to us vanity means conceit. If you're conceited/vain because you're beautiful well that's not nice.

    Caring about being beautiful and trying to be beautiful doesn't as of yet have a synonim, it's just trying to be beautiful which is 100% positive thing.

    Emptiness (vanity) is Christian morality. https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/lasting-beauty/

    "In these verses, Peter is not condemning all wearing of jewelry or all concern with outward appearance. If he were, then we would have to read verse 3 as forbidding the wearing of any clothing at all. What he is condemning is an overt concern with physical appearance that reflects the vanity and ungodliness of the surrounding culture."

    Christian morality and vocabulary belongs exclusively to sect of Christianity. Let them listen to Peter LOL and be ugly cause otherwise they're comiting a sin (sin LOL) of emptiness, futility (Vanity). :D

    Atheist morality and reasoning is another galaxy for those lunatics. Critical thinking is not even found in traces in some people.
    I suppose humanity will invent teleportation and many advanced things in the future, it'll be year 3000 and sect of Christianity will still quote Peter. LOL
     
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    https://www.quora.com/What-does-vanity-mean-in-the-Bible

    :D :D :D

    "Vanity is anything that does not lead to the Kingdom of Heaven, even those things within themselves that are good which are only done for one's own glorification.

    So, things whose value pertain to this world only and have no spiritual merit would be physical beauty, physical strength, worldly possessions and wealth, worldly knowledge and admiration. All these things are ‘vanities’. Their value is shallow and, not cast in God's proper light are not only meaningless, but can lead a soul to eternal damnation. For instance if one spent their life’s work amassing wealth and enjoying the luxuries of this world while they neglected their poor brethren.

    On the other hand, if God blessed you with intelligence and you were able to be successful in your life but used it to help others (a lawyer of human rights, perhaps) and made good money (and helped the poor and less fortunate) then you would be considered just and virtuous.

    It is not that the things of this world are necessarily bad, it is directed more at how we use them. If they don't help us to love God and our neighbour then they are just a vanity!"

    :D :D :D LOL
     
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    I never thought my thread would turn into bible analysis. I was more curious about our preoccupation with looks and whether we are more looks conscious than most people.
     
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    I'm not vain anymore

    I never look in a mirror
     
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    Everyone is preoccupied with looks and everyone is looks conscious by nature. That is called loving beauty and wanting to be beautiful because of self perception through our bodies. Wanting to be beautiful doesn't have a synonim as of yet and if it did have a synonim or a word meaning wanting to be beautiful it would be a positive concept and a positive word.

    None of that is vanity, so stop using idiotic Bible vocabulary in 2018!!! Emptiness, futility what vanity means and all "reasoning" around that is sect of Christianity morality and their sick "logic" and inducing quilt in order to control people for things that are normal, positive and natural. Twisting things around as only something so sick as sect of Christianity can do.

    In the future, EVOLVE and ask people "hey do you care about being beautiful?", "yes, I do", "great, so do I, "yeah, everyone cares it's natural, it's human nature and it's 100% positive thing, it's self perception that affects self image that affects self confidence", "yes, old news", "cheers!", "cheers!".

    Evolving is natural also. It's time.
     
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    I'm using the oxford dictionary definition of vanity:

    excessive pride in one's appearance, qualities, abilities, achievements

    Please stop mentioning the bible on this thread.
     
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    Why is it that so many women are so annoying?
    My theory is that they never learn to read signs that they’re being annoying, people just let them go on and on because they want to have sex with them. Whereas if a man goes on and on about irrelevant bullshit that no one cares about then people will tell him to stfu.
     
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    On a related note, I've often said that the reason that public schools are dens of interpersonal dysfunction (at least here in NYC) is because the workforce is 95+% female. There is so much cliqueishness, gossip, backstabbing and other drama that goes on there - the stories that my family members who work in the public school system tell me are amazing. Yet you look at workplaces where it's 90+% male (e.g. construction or mining or other manual labor jobs) and there is none of that - no issues, no problems comparatively. And the reason for that, I maintain, is that men learn early on in life that if they talk too much shit about another man, it may escalate to physical violence. So men learn at a young age how to get along with other men, and what not to say or do. That threat of physical violence is never there for women, so many of them go through life just running off at the mouth, thinking they can say or do whatever they want without consequences - because in a very real sense, there are no immediate (or at least no dire) consequences for them as there are for men. This has only gotten worse with the deterioration of good parenting over the last 20+ years.

    A man knows that if he talks too much shit about Joe he might get punched, or worse. A woman doesn't care to talk about Cheryl behind her back because, well, what's the worst that could happen?
     
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    Very typical symptom of autism. Maybe most women are secretly autistic?
     
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    JohnsonDDG Senior Member My Regimen

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    'Autistic' women are culturally appropriating incels ;)
     
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