Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

melio

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Thanks yea I'll steer clear, will only make it worse long term

honestly they're good in a pinch. the problem is if you rely on them (pretty easy.) but sometimes you just need some god damned sleep. bica did that to me.
 

baldingAF

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Anyone use E with no AA? The anti androgens hit me hard with depression but I feel like I can handle E. Anyone?

anyone?

Buler?
 

Blackweasel

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Gyno surgery apparently $1800 in Australia.
Thats not bad, and small cost to pay. This video documents the process....

 

John Difool

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Is there such a thing as too much estrogen? I am taking oral sublingual E and gel. I wonder if the body just flurshes the extra (and I am wasting money) or it triggers some bad in my system.

I would really like some pointers for this question. Anyone?
 

LEXUS

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Do you still take bica as well?
Hey. which E do you use for injection and how many mg and how often? how much mg finasteride? Is E alone not enough? do you think finasteride is needed
 

John Difool

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when taking bica, spironolactone is not needed
when taking cpa, spironolactone can be added
when taking duta, fina is not needed
when taking fina, ru is not needed
when taking cb, ru is not needed
when taking bica, cpa can be added
when taking most AA, you can get gyno
when taking minoxidil, your hair will grow all over your body
after microneedling, you can apply minoxidil same day
when taking any drugs, you will get some side effects
 

Jacob Williams

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This buzz cut has really been enlightening. I don’t think the previous photos lighting allowed for me to show how thin my hair really is but it’s quite bad. I have to imagine that this isn’t exclusively due to the oral minoxidil shed and my hair has just slowly been getting thinner without me noticing. Is there anything else I can do besides taking estrogen? How effective would it be if I started taking some CPA and dropped my bicalutamide dose?
 

John Difool

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Hey. which E do you use for injection and how many mg and how often? how much mg finasteride? Is E alone not enough? do you think finasteride is needed
E won't be enough if you start after puberty because inflammation of the developed scalp will trigger dht response unless you zap your T level to oblivion resulting in almost no dht. You need a dht blocker such as AA. In the past I usebica with duta and it didn't work so well. When I was on CPA+spironolactone+E, I regained quickly.
 

baldingAF

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@John Difool What makes you so sure about this increase in DHT if E is increased.

And what level of dht blocker, if you tried something like Bica then what could you use that’s stronger.

Explain this please
 
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keepcoolmybabies

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Hey. which E do you use for injection and how many mg and how often? how much mg finasteride? Is E alone not enough? do you think finasteride is needed
Generally I do 7mg estradiol valerate every 5 days. finasteride might not be needed, but too afraid to drop it.
 

LEXUS

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Generally I do 7mg estradiol valerate every 5 days. finasteride might not be needed, but too afraid to drop it.

I take valerate every day sublingually. hemihydrate does not work for me. I tried without finasteride and it was worse. and I also did not see any difference between finasteride and dutasteride. You are right, do not cancel the finasteride.
 

LEXUS

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E won't be enough if you start after puberty because inflammation of the developed scalp will trigger dht response unless you zap your T level to oblivion resulting in almost no dht. You need a dht blocker such as AA. In the past I usebica with duta and it didn't work so well. When I was on CPA+spironolactone+E, I regained quickly.

You quickly recovered because you took both spironolactone and cypro together. but it’s very harmful and I don’t want to. Yes, you are right. E alone is not enough. but cipro does not block DHT in any way. here you need inhibitors. testosterone falls from estradiol and dht from finasteride. my estosterone falls from estradiol. and DHT only from inhibitors. AA do not give me anything.
 

Father_of_Shiseido

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You quickly recovered because you took both spironolactone and cypro together. but it’s very harmful and I don’t want to. Yes, you are right. E alone is not enough. but cipro does not block DHT in any way. here you need inhibitors. testosterone falls from estradiol and dht from finasteride. my estosterone falls from estradiol. and DHT only from inhibitors. AA do not give me anything.
Only the Inhibition of androgens matters when it comes to hair loss.
 

Mr. Grey

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All AA block receptors with different force. (depend on androgen). if you take any androgens you don’t need 5af inhibitors. for me duta don’t make nothing, i tried it in different dosages.
 
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