Dr. Tsuji Kyocera, Riken Research, Organ Technologies Form Regenerative Hair Research Team

[inmyhead]

Even if it worked, the treatment more than likely would not be available to the public in 2020. It's safe to assume this is when they aim to start their trials. Available as a treatment probably in like 2024-25.

What I’m interested in is whether Tsuji’s method would be able to modulate growth density in different areas of the scalp or if it would give the same density everywhere. It might look weird having the same density in the crown as in the front or forelock. I think in nature the density varies across the scalp.

Or maybe uniform, thick density would just look awesome regardless? Perhaps this is something a good hair transplant doctor could tell us.

They saying it might be available in 2020. But yes. i 'd rather believe in some random guy like you.

 

[Torin]

They saying it might be available in 2020. But yes. i 'd rather believe in some random guy like you.

Correction: Kyocera said this, not Dr. Tsuji.

Dr. Tsuji said last year and reiterated again this year that he aims to start clinical human trials in 2020.

Do you really think they could go from testing on humans for the first time to commercialisation in a few months or even a couple of years? Don't kid yourself.

Best case scenario is 2023-24 and that is if they don't run into any issues and it works like a dream the first or second time round.

 

[Armando Jose]

Even if it worked, the treatment more than likely would not be available to the public in 2020. It's safe to assume this is when they aim to start their trials. Available as a treatment probably in like 2024-25.

What I’m interested in is whether Tsuji’s method would be able to modulate growth density in different areas of the scalp or if it would give the same density everywhere. It might look weird having the same density in the crown as in the front or forelock. I think in nature the density varies across the scalp.

Or maybe uniform, thick density would just look awesome regardless? Perhaps this is something a good hair transplant doctor could tell us.

Interesting your point, but I think that scalp hair density is the same in all areas, at least in the initial growth of hairs.

 

[Torin]

"The treatment involves cutting off a small section of scalp and extracting two kinds of stem cells from hair follicles. The extracted cells are processed and propagated to increase their number by 100- to 1,000-fold, making it possible to transplant a large number of hair follicles by cutting off only a small section of the scalp."

If they mean propogating 100- to 1,000 new follicles from each single follicle, that could be either a good or less than good thing.

Here's why. The procedure will probably cut a 0.5cm section of scalp which lets say contains 50 hairs.

If they propagate the cells 100-fold, that will mean 5,000 net new hairs. By 1000-fold, 50,000 hairs.

You see the difference there?

 

[Ken1983]

it'd be great if they could cultivate the cells of compound follicles. imagine how thick your hair would be if all your head follicles had 3 or 4 or 5 hairs growing out of them.

 

[Noisette]

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Kyocera-to-join-hair-regeneration-research-project

Great ! Good find !

 

[Torin]

it'd be great if they could cultivate the cells of compound follicles. imagine how thick your hair would be if all your head follicles had 3 or 4 or 5 hairs growing out of them.

These follicular units of groups of 1 to 4 hairs are naturally occurring. See how the roots are not close to each other but the hairs just randomly exited the skin close together.

I hope cloning can reproduce some of this random effect, if perhaps not as randomly or as often as in nature, at least more random and natural than fue.

 

[Ken1983]

These follicular units of groups of 1 to 4 hairs are naturally occurring. See how the roots are not close to each other but the hairs just randomly exited the skin close together.

I hope cloning can reproduce some of this random effect, if perhaps not as randomly or as often as in nature, at least more random and natural than fue.

You'd just need the randomness along the hairline and perhaps on the crown to achieve a natural look, the other zones could be entirely made up of compound follicles -4or 5 hairs per follicle, which are very rare btw. That'd be great. Imagine how much more thick your hair would look:

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

NHASAP just found this over at HLC2020.
http://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007/978-1-4939-3786-8_9

 

[hellouser]

NHASAP just found this over at HLC2020.
http://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007/978-1-4939-3786-8_9

Remember when I said there's a lot that we don't know that the biotechs and scientists do?

Yeah... they've probably figured it all out.

 

[hilbert]

You'd just need the randomness along the hairline and perhaps on the crown to achieve a natural look, the other zones could be entirely made up of compound follicles -4or 5 hairs per follicle, which are very rare btw. That'd be great. Imagine how much more thick your hair would look:

this is all hair transplant bread & butter.

 

[Swoop]

anyone going to buy the protocol paper?
maybe someone with good scientific knowledge who can break it down for the rest of us.

It's nothing new. Just a very clear step by step protocol of his method done on mice for other researchers/scientists.

 

[Willy31]

I have not hair. If this becomes possible, people can donate hair grafts with same blood group people?

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

I have not hair. If this becomes possible, people can donate hair grafts with same blood group people?

He used human cells on a mouse so perhaps you could do the same between two different people. Even if you have no hair then IPS hair cell treatments will solve your problem in the near future. I truly believe that no one will need to be bald in ten years. Good luck, man.

 

[Axel]

anyone going to buy the protocol paper?

It is available for free at Sci-Hub (just like all the rest of papers in the world xD)

 

[Torin]

It is available for free at Sci-Hub (just like all the rest of papers in the world xD)

Their method looks way complicated. And how will they do this without using nylon strings?

Roll on the human trials to actually see if this is actually viable in humans.

 

[Ken1983]

And how will they do this without using nylon strings?.

i guess kyocera will develop some kind of multi chambered injector.

 

[Ken1983]

it looks like there are new methods to mass produce cells in a more compact 3dimentional environment. Maybe the primordiums will be mass produced this way, instead of in 2d culture plates

youtube.com/watch?v=1ArtCkcnO0s&t=1m45s

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

i guess kyocera will develop some kind of multi chambered injector.

What does this mean?

 

[Ken1983]

What does this mean?

sorry, i meant an injector with multiple needles, not chambers. like the injector replicel developed, which has 16 needles.