Dr. Tsuji Kyocera, Riken Research, Organ Technologies Form Regenerative Hair Research Team

Ken1983

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From this video you can get the following information

  • Tsuji thinks he will have the technology ready for practical use within about 10 years( youtube.com/watch?v=-p0Hvrx093I&t=4m12s )
  • They haven't figured out how to culture the cells yet ( youtube.com/watch?v=-p0Hvrx093I&t=7m55s )
However, the deadline was shortened a bit because they have more funding and researchers, but now theyre under even more pressure to figure out how to culture the cells in time. Are they able to do it? a lot of people here are assuming they can.
 

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From this video you can get the following information

  • Tsuji thinks he will have the technology ready for practical use within about 10 years( youtube.com/watch?v=-p0Hvrx093I&t=4m12s )
  • They haven't figured out how to culture the cells yet ( youtube.com/watch?v=-p0Hvrx093I&t=7m55s )
However, the deadline was shortened a bit because they have more funding and researchers, but now theyre under even more pressure to figure out how to culture the cells in time. Are they able to do it? a lot of people here are assuming they can.

You're over a year out of date, Ken. The new partnership with Kyocera strongly suggests to me that Tsuji has overcome that hurdle. I doubt they would've gotten Kyocera to sign up, or that they would have even tried, if they were still struggling with the epithelial cells.
 

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Here is another video;

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/scienceview/20160720.html

Goes about Replicel then Riken (Tsuji) and after Ohyama (iPS cells).


hey swoop,

first of all: how the hell and since when have you turned into a moderator on this site? ; -)

regarding tsuji: you've been in contact with tsuji via email, right?
do you see a chance to have a Q&A with him somewhen in a few months or so? we need more details on his technique. what has he achieved so far? are there still any roadblocks with the cell culturing? i mean, he is talking about trying the whole thing on a human head in late 2020. if the whole culturing thing is solved, why not try it on a bald scalp already? just to show proof of concept. if not all culturing issues are solved yet, it could indeed mean that they need many more years to figure it out... if at all.
still to date it's not 100% proven that the multiplied cells are useful to create cosmetically relevant hairs.
if we would have the proof that the technology is ready but only needs time for refinement and mass production, imagine what kind of relief that would be for all of us. but even with all those recent news we are currently still left in the dark. it MIGHT be the cure, but who knows how many roadblocks will follow.

A month ago or so when I got asked to do it :p. Yeah seems like a good idea to do a Q&A with Dr. Tsuji soon. Honestly when they get the culturing right I'm fairly sure they will create hair. Having some evidence would be great indeed, that would be a great relief.
 

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We can only go by what they tell us. I think if anyone
Here is another video;

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/scienceview/20160720.html

Goes about Replicel then Riken (Tsuji) and after Ohyama (iPS cells).




A month ago or so when I got asked to do it :p. Yeah seems like a good idea to do a Q&A with Dr. Tsuji soon. Honestly when they get the culturing right I'm fairly sure they will create hair. Having some evidence would be great indeed, that would be a great relief.

Anyone notice how the video uses the footage from Science Zero? I hope they have progressed since then. The Doctor said the word "unfortunately" too many times for my liking.

I really cannot tell if any of them are close to their goal or not. The partnership between Riken and Kyocera may indicate progress has been made, however it might not and it still could all come to nothing.

I just hope that Tsuji persists with hair follicles for as long as necessary before he moves to other organs.
 

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Here is another video;

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/scienceview/20160720.html

Goes about Replicel then Riken (Tsuji) and after Ohyama (iPS cells).




A month ago or so when I got asked to do it :p. Yeah seems like a good idea to do a Q&A with Dr. Tsuji soon. Honestly when they get the culturing right I'm fairly sure they will create hair. Having some evidence would be great indeed, that would be a great relief.

If Tsuji fails, then it would be Ohyama who'd be the next guy to step up to the mantle. In fact, why don't Riken just hire Ohyama or another iPS specialist? They have funds, surely? iPS cells have a lot of credibility (yamanaka won a nobel prize for this), and its a known fact that any type of cell can be reprogrammed and multiplied using iPS. So potentially they could use iPS cells to multiply the cells, instead of Tsuji trying to figure out a culturing method, which could be a dead end.
 
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Ken in all due respect, you're being a downer. They won't fail, this is too good to fail. Obviously we don't have most of the information that they know. It'd be pretty stupid to make a huge partnership and announce that it'll be here in 3 years if all they have is "maybe science". Get a grip and stop being overly skeptical.
 

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I don't want to sound pessimistic but sometimes when I try to picture a nw7 going to a nw1 with cloned hairs it just seems like a dream.

I hope it is a dream they will turn into reality, but there are so many considerations with hair follicles (need to create thousands of clones from a single follicle, directing their growth, ensuring correct patterns/cycles of growth, an aesthetic eye very much required etc.) that it seems almost harder to achieve this than cloning say a single kidney or other organ where these issues (mainly the need for mass replication and the aesthetic elements) are not a concern.

Trying to trigger new growth through wounding seems like a more organic way of doing it. If it was successful, it would let nature take care of the natural cycles, correct direction of new growth etc.

I am of course thinking about Follica's research.

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Ken in all due respect, you're being a downer. They won't fail, this is too good to fail. Obviously we don't have most of the information that they know. It'd be pretty stupid to make a huge partnership and announce that it'll be here in 3 years if all they have is "maybe science". Get a grip and stop being overly skeptical.
Can you see them spending millions developing the machinery by 2018 when they can't even get the culturing right, and perhaps never will? That would be incredibly premature. If that was the case, there would be plenty of time to build the machinery after they've solved that problem.
 

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This is very important quote:

Speaking of hair loss, it was recently reported that you are working with a private company to development a treatment for using regenerative medicine to regrow hair. Will this be available soon?

Dr.Tsuji:
I think it will. We have developed technology to grow hair follicles using stem cells, as hair follicles are one of the few organs where we always have stem cells ready. We hope to be able to start clinical trials in the next few years so that the treatment can move into the clinic.
 

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This is very important quote:

Speaking of hair loss, it was recently reported that you are working with a private company to development a treatment for using regenerative medicine to regrow hair. Will this be available soon?

Dr.Tsuji:
I think it will. We have developed technology to grow hair follicles using stem cells, as hair follicles are one of the few organs where we always have stem cells ready. We hope to be able to start clinical trials in the next few years so that the treatment can move into the clinic.

Thank you for this quote. Now everyone chill out, and subside your overly critical skepticism. Enjoy that a cure will be here in 2020, because it's happening whether you think it is or not.
 

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This is very important quote:

Speaking of hair loss, it was recently reported that you are working with a private company to development a treatment for using regenerative medicine to regrow hair. Will this be available soon?

Dr.Tsuji:
I think it will. We have developed technology to grow hair follicles using stem cells, as hair follicles are one of the few organs where we always have stem cells ready. We hope to be able to start clinical trials in the next few years so that the treatment can move into the clinic.

Where is this from? This is the first I've heard of this.
 

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Thank you for this quote. Now everyone chill out, and subside your overly critical skepticism. Enjoy that a cure will be here in 2020, because it's happening whether you think it is or not.

Yes... but for the guy with NOTHING hair (zero hair on all the head)? Tsuji treatment will be effective for the guy in this bad situation? If not, Rivertown/Replicel/Histogen will be effective for egghead/hair cycles all exhausted?
 

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Thank you for this quote. Now everyone chill out, and subside your overly critical skepticism. Enjoy that a cure will be here in 2020, because it's happening whether you think it is or not.


Even if it worked, the treatment more than likely would not be available to the public in 2020. It's safe to assume this is when they aim to start their trials. Available as a treatment probably in like 2024-25.

What I’m interested in is whether Tsuji’s method would be able to modulate growth density in different areas of the scalp or if it would give the same density everywhere. It might look weird having the same density in the crown as in the front or forelock. I think in nature the density varies across the scalp.

Or maybe uniform, thick density would just look awesome regardless? Perhaps this is something a good hair transplant doctor could tell us.

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