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It is funny to see that Hairloss is such a complicated phenomenon but can be fixed by something not extraordinary like a plant... :gay:
 

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delete. squeege found something better.
 

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Everyone thank squeegee

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/licorice.cfm

1/4 pound = 110g of 20% extract for $17. Now that is a deal. he also found a study showing that the main sweetening ingredient plays a key role in the 5ar inhibition. Maybe it is not the only chemical, but it definitely is one of the big players, and shows that we may not need the inflata.
 

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If you prefer a pre-made shampoo, here you go:

http://www.google.com/search?client=fir ... gle+Search
 

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A 10% glycyrrhizin shampoo prevented sebum secretion for 1 week compared with citric acid shampoo, which delayed oil accumulation by 1 day.
http://www.drugs.com/npp/licorice.html


PREVENTED!!! NOT REDUCED. PREVENTED, FOR 1 WEEEK, SEBUM EXCRETION!!!!
 

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squeegee found this:

The effects of the licorice derivative, glycyrrhetinic acid, on hepatic 3 alpha- and 3 beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenases and 5 alpha- and 5 beta-reductase pathways of metabolism of aldosterone in male rats.

Ingestion of licorice or treatment with chemical derivatives of glycyrrhetinic acid (GA), an active principle of licorice, can cause hypertension, sodium retention, and hypokalemia. Although GA has been shown to inhibit 11 beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, it may not be the only hepatic enzyme affected by this licorice derivative. Therefore, we studied the effects of GA on other major hepatic steroid-metabolizing enzymes from adrenalectomized male rats using aldosterone as the substrate; namely, delta 4-5 alpha- and delta 4-5 beta-reductases and 3 alpha- and 3 beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenases (3 alpha- and 3 beta-HSD). From these in vitro studies, we demonstrated that GA does not affect either microsomal 5 alpha-reductase or cytosolic 3 alpha-HSD activity. However, GA is a potent inhibitor of cytosolic 5 beta-reductase; the K(is) and K(ii) were calculated from enzyme kinetic analysis to be 6.79 and 5.41 microM, respectively, using the Cleland equation, indicating that GA is a noncompetitive inhibitor of aldosterone. In addition, GA specifically inhibited microsomal 3 beta-HSD enzyme activity by what appears to be a competitive inhibition mechanism, causing a build-up of the intermediate, 5 alpha-dihydroaldosterone (DHAldo). Thus, this study has indicated that GA has a profound effect on hepatic ring A-reduction of aldosterone. Inhibition of 5 beta-reductase and 3 beta-HSD results in decreased synthesis of both 3 alpha, 5 beta-tetrahydroaldosterone (THAldo) and 3 beta, 5 alpha-THAldo and, hence, accumulation of aldosterone and 5 alpha-DHAldo, both potent mineralocorticoids.


Ok lot of blabla but I think a got my answer: Inhibition of PKC activity was nearly 100% with glycyrrhetinic acid glycoside (glycyrrhizine) at 200 ?M; and 52% with 18/5- glycyrrhetinic acid at 500 ?M.


http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO= ... SPLAY=DESC INHIBITION OF HAIR GROWTH

Glycyrrhetinic acid is the major active component..It is what we want so far...from the Licorice root.
 

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must be all the 5ar inhibition, AR inhibition, estrogenic activity. And it is an anti-oxidant and anti-microbial too.
 

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This plant does it all!Need to invest in stock exchange market really soon if this plant really does work for my Norwood!
 

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The link is right above your nose. read this page again.

you can buy it in bulk powder, by the quarter pound. cheap. I ordered mine last night. 1/2 pound is cheaper, but I think 1/4 pound will last me close to a decade.
 

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You guys are awesome, I just ordered the 1/4 not 5 minutes ago. Definitely going to give this a try.

Am I hearing this correctly? Add to shampoo and hopefully VOILA!!?
Well, not to that extent but you know what I mean.

Also, could you add this to the white curcumin concoction? Ethyl Alcohol, white curcumin, licorice and???
 

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Yes, you could add it. My brother was worried it will give him a dry scalp. I told him if that is an issue, he can put less in his shampoo, and only use it once a week. Whatever you want.
 

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We dont need the Inflata anymore? That's great :punk:

I'll order the powder tomorrow. This will be my first homemade topical.

Where are people planning on using it? Going straight for the head or on the body first, to see what it does on the body hair?
 

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I think I just found a supplier of the Glycyrrhiza inflata Bat. in California..Waiting for the answer....

Glycyrrhiza inflata
glycyrrhizainflataBat.jpg


Glycyrrhiza glabra
glycyrrhizaglabraL.jpg
 

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I just e-mailed a company that have Minimum 98% of Glycyrrhizic Acid(by UV),
Minimum 60% of Glycyrrhizic Acid(by HPLC).

http://www.tokiwaph.co.jp/products/prod ... orice.html
http://www.tokiwaph.co.jp/products/prod ... orice.html <----effects of the different Glycyrrhizic acids.

They have studies of plants hidden abilities. I asked if they had any studys on Glycyrrhizic Acid on hairloss, and if they are interested in selling some of the powder cause the have inflata too.


I found a spray with Glycyrrhizic acid. It's for Herpes.
Main ingredient: Glycyrrhizic Acid
Polysorbate 80
Propylene
Glycol
Ascorbic Acid
Folic Acid
Aqua
Malic Acid
Fumaric Acid
http://www.aacstore.net/Merchant2/merch ... streatment

A bit interesting to see that besides Glycyrrhizic acid it includes other ingredients that has been discussed used for hairloss.
Anyway it's a no go because all the ingredients would make it hard to tell what Glycyrrhizic acid does alone.
 

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squeegee said:
I think I just found a supplier of the Glycyrrhiza inflata Bat. in California..Waiting for the answer....

Glycyrrhiza inflata
glycyrrhizainflataBat.jpg


Glycyrrhiza glabra
glycyrrhizaglabraL.jpg

Fantastic work. It also matters what they used to extract it. I think we got what we need, but it would be nice to know we got the best. But for all we know, maybe a water extract is ever stronger than the polyol extract. But what are the odds of that?
 
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