Aggressive Balding. Zero Loss To Noticeable In Under Three Years

[Vikesh]

Man I can’t tell you how much I wish you were right on the Ferritin. Had it tested again and came in at 59 said normal was 20-300.

I have started back on iron but... afraid to stop the topical Finasteride. I know there a lot of hair but when you compare to 6 months or a year the gaps and loss of density become very apparent. It’s all about the rate of loss not where I am today. (6 month photos wet same angle)

I just got my levels tested and I got 106. I just only a month ago stopped shedding in the shower, and my temples literally started growing in around 3 weeks ago. Meaning my levels had to be around 70-80 when I started seeing results. Also if your hair gets fried because of ferratin issues, it’s not just going to stop over night. It’s going to take atleast a year.

 

[bluecyclone]

This is male pattern baldness!? Just aggressive diffuse and not responding to topical Finasteride? I just can’t understand the speed. The thinning ramped up again and temples are all but gone. Hairline was never an issue but at a year in topical Finasteride it’s raised almost an inch and 1.5 at temples plus crazy over all loss of density.

Went from .5 to 1.0 Topical but not at all optimistic.

 

[brownhair]

Why don't you stop using it? No disrespect but every time you mention topical finasteride you also say how it's not working for you. You may just be unlucky and a non responder like so many others.

Your hairloss isn't as aggressive as you think. I lost far more than you on Finasteride in the space of 10 months.

 

[bluecyclone]

I’m getting close but just worried it could be worse off of it. My hairline did not move until I added the Finasteride. At the same time maybe it’s slowing it down? I’m clueless, no doctors want to deal with me.

 

[CrownBalding]

I’m getting close but just worried it could be worse off of it. My hairline did not move until I added the Finasteride. At the same time maybe it’s slowing it down? I’m clueless, no doctors want to deal with me.

“No doctors want to deal with me”. It’s cause you’re in your 40s, still have an exceptional head of hair for your age, and just starting to thin.

My honest question to you is, did you think you were gonna die with the same density of hair that you had years ago?

 

[ScaredOfBalding]

I’m getting close but just worried it could be worse off of it. My hairline did not move until I added the Finasteride. At the same time maybe it’s slowing it down? I’m clueless, no doctors want to deal with me.

Ur a clown. U take photos with wet hair and flash and u still are not able to see much scalp. Ofcourse doctors do not want to deal with u, u have obvious mental issues. Take ONE decent picture with dry hair, i f*****g dare you to do it and post it. I bet you won't cuz you won't see a single bit of scalp. Agressive balding lmao, u shouldve went from nw1 to nw6 in 3 years in ur early 20s then u would know what agressive balding was. f*****g donkey.

 

[bluecyclone]

thanks guys, helpful. really why is this a weird competition to see who is in worse shape. I have recognized about 100 times that my hair is above average for my age.

I’m just trying to find out if I’m making it worse with meds or slowing down the loss. Say what you want but I had gone 40 years with ZERO change in my hair, to thin this quickly would freak anyone out at any age. Dry AF photo, 8 months ago there were no gaps and my hairline had no temple recession.

 

[bluecyclone]

Ur a clown. U take photos with wet hair and flash and u still are not able to see much scalp. Ofcourse doctors do not want to deal with u, u have obvious mental issues. Take ONE decent picture with dry hair, i f*****g dare you to do it and post it. I bet you won't cuz you won't see a single bit of scalp. Agressive balding lmao, u shouldve went from nw1 to nw6 in 3 years in ur early 20s then u would know what agressive balding was. f*****g donkey.

No I assumed it would thin. I did not expect hundreds of hairs falling out every day and that thinning to go from zero to noticeable in a year or so. I have been washing every other day and this is the result. Still cover but there’s no way to keep up with this amount of loss. I’m Almost two years in oral minoxidil and 12 months on Topical Finasteride. There has been no slow down.

 

[bluecyclone]

I honestly do not know if I am experiencing much miniaturization at all. My issue is the shedding/loss.

My understanding is that male pattern baldness is a condition that progresses slowly overtime. Healthy hairs fall and the DHT damages the regrowing hair.

I can’t stress that while I still have good hair. In 2017 I had an extremely dense head of thick long black hair. I had a crazy Busy Telogen Effluvium and then steady Telogen Effluvium like loss due to thyroid. I am just looking for ideas on how to stop the shedding. I think the Finasteride helps in keeping the follicles alive but it’s almost pointless when I’m losing 250+ hairs every day. My home is covered. I have it on my shoulders and desk during the day with out touching it. When I shower I could if I wasn’t taking great care, pull out twice as much as what’s already coming out.

I’m trying to weigh the risk of stopping Minoxidil. Starting that was a milestone that gutted my hair in a way that has never recovered. Could it be causing the shedding?

Density was significantly better even a month ago.

 

[bluecyclone]

Jesus man how much do you shed a day? I don’t believe for a second you lose 300 hairs a day. You hair looks the exact same as it did from the pictures three years ago. ExAcT SamE. And you’re a nw1.

I is deceiving but the density is a fraction of what it was a year ago. That’s why I think there is more going on than male pattern baldness and I’m just searching for answers. Two doctors told me I don’t have male pattern baldness but that they could see the loss of density and the shedding. I literally have a bullshit ‘idiopathic chronic effluvium’ diagnosis from two of the ‘top’ hair specialists in Chicago. Biopsy said early AA.

 

[Manochoice]

Looking for others that had no prior issues at all with hairloss that experienced a rapid onset, aggressive shedding, and decline in density/hair quality.

I was lucky this hit at 40 and I had a crazy dense baseline, but the speed is daunting. Heavy shedding, miniaturization with no response to treatment.

I am meeting with one of the top hair loss dermatologists in the country in a few weeks and plan to share any insights or ideas that I gain.

Mine was a maturing hair line for all my 20s. Once I hit 30s it kinda started to go downhill. The true warp soeed was around 32 and the next 5 years almost reached light speed. From a way above the average density (3 to 4 strands per each root without exception) to bullshit density (or lack of). So yee, it can happen and u are not the only one.

 

[Manochoice]

I honestly do not know if I am experiencing much miniaturization at all. My issue is the shedding/loss.

My understanding is that male pattern baldness is a condition that progresses slowly overtime. Healthy hairs fall and the DHT damages the regrowing hair.

I can’t stress that while I still have good hair. In 2017 I had an extremely dense head of thick long black hair. I had a crazy Busy Telogen Effluvium and then steady Telogen Effluvium like loss due to thyroid. I am just looking for ideas on how to stop the shedding. I think the Finasteride helps in keeping the follicles alive but it’s almost pointless when I’m losing 250+ hairs every day. My home is covered. I have it on my shoulders and desk during the day with out touching it. When I shower I could if I wasn’t taking great care, pull out twice as much as what’s already coming out.

I’m trying to weigh the risk of stopping Minoxidil. Starting that was a milestone that gutted my hair in a way that has never recovered. Could it be causing the shedding?

Density was significantly better even a month ago.

Dude, I get you. I was in shock when I started losing 250+ hairs a day all of a sudden. But I also experienced miniturization so kinda fita the male pattern baldness much better. Plus the crown fading. I meaj either get on some serious treatment (do have in mind the risks) or learn to cope and adjust to the changes. You really have too much hair to find any empathy here...

 

[CrownBalding]

I honestly do not know if I am experiencing much miniaturization at all. My issue is the shedding/loss.

My understanding is that male pattern baldness is a condition that progresses slowly overtime. Healthy hairs fall and the DHT damages the regrowing hair.

I can’t stress that while I still have good hair. In 2017 I had an extremely dense head of thick long black hair. I had a crazy Busy Telogen Effluvium and then steady Telogen Effluvium like loss due to thyroid. I am just looking for ideas on how to stop the shedding. I think the Finasteride helps in keeping the follicles alive but it’s almost pointless when I’m losing 250+ hairs every day. My home is covered. I have it on my shoulders and desk during the day with out touching it. When I shower I could if I wasn’t taking great care, pull out twice as much as what’s already coming out.

I’m trying to weigh the risk of stopping Minoxidil. Starting that was a milestone that gutted my hair in a way that has never recovered. Could it be causing the shedding?

Density was significantly better even a month ago.

This hair of a 42 year old man, gentleman.

 

[-Synergy-]

“No doctors want to deal with me”. It’s cause you’re in your 40s, still have an exceptional head of hair for your age, and just starting to thin.

My honest question to you is, did you think you were gonna die with the same density of hair that you had years ago?

Yes and no. Doctors are just dumb as hell. I’m half his age missing twice as much hair and they still don’t do anything. It’s just rich kids that got their parents to pay for their education and now sit around pushing minoxidil and finasteride to eventually collect a six figure salary. Really disgusting. I’m glad I grew up broke because it made me resourceful and determined.

Just sayin

 

[bluecyclone]

For the record absolutely not looking for sympathy, just ideas. Doctors are sh*t and I’m pretty sure I’ve don’t more harm than good listening to their fragmented bullshit. I had zero maturing hairline at 40 with insane thick black hair. I still have a ton of hair and still doesn’t look bad. But in two years there is about half of the hair there was and I’m assuming at that rate by 50...

Just trying to slow this sh*t down, yes I’m 42 almost 43 but I haven’t looked it yet. My beard isn’t even grey and I’m in the same shape I was at 25.

No problem getting old but I have a hard time believing such a significant change isn’t more than male pattern baldness. Switching to a stronger topical Finasteride. Keeping the Minoxidil for now. I might try Stem cells and Iton/Ferritin IV. This all started with thyroid and my Ferritin can’t get above 50 even with crazy iron supplements.

As for sympathy I can’t tell you how much I feel for the younger guys and people trust have been fighting longer without success. I’d do anything to contribute to helping figure out options that help all of us.

For real 2020 and this sh*t shouldn’t exist. I still think for celebrities and the ultra r oh it doesn’t.

 

[Who Farted]

Your problem isn’t male pattern baldness, it’s getting older. Literally everyone thins out as they age, but for most people it occurs far earlier in life. Most people would kill to have this “problem” in their 40s, but I digress. In any case, this process explains everything you’ve reported here.

I think you need a therapist to help you with these obsessive thoughts and that are clearly detrimentally affecting your life in an abnormal manner. This level of insecurity and anxiety are not normal, you will feel far better if you address those.

You go to a doctor, but you don’t listen. You ask for advice, but you don’t take it. I don’t know what you’re looking for, but you’re clearly not going to find it here.

 

[bluecyclone]

We are all here because what we have tried has not worked.

I get it there’s probably a part of this that is age related and I’m cool with that...

I’m not cool with 200+ hairs a day, 20-30 hair anytime I touch it. Hair in my clothes and floors and food. This is what I’m here to figure out.

I have hit ‘the big three’ and it’s been a full year with Finasteride, the topical at 2x a day is probably stronger than the oral dose, either way nothing has slowed it down. I’m double the topical dose and switching to Gel. The studies seem to show this could be as effective as the oral.

Would you listen to a doctor that gives you a bull sh*t diagnosis: idiopathic chronic effluvium and has documented and photographed 40% loss over around 2 years.

Anyone still willing to help, I’m trying to figure out:

Is oral minoxidil is causing the shed/shed cycles and what is the risk associated with stopping?

What level of Ferritin I need to rule out a deficiency?

Is PRP/STEM useless, more harm than good?

I don’t think these are unreasonable questions with possible answers that can benefit more than just my situation. Yes maybe I’ve been over reacting, the shedding has really fucked with my head. If this was gradual I would be much better dealing with it. I know I’m lucky, but Isn't the whole point to get a head of it and fight hard now before it gets bad?

 

[bluecyclone]

Even if I deserve hate for still having hair at 42 you have see the huge drop in density. That plus the lack of response to treatment and constant shed would freak anyone out. This is 2.5 years out from course dense black hair and a juvenile hairline.

 

[JonnyGo]

Even if I deserve hate for still having hair at 42 you have see the huge drop in density. That plus the lack of response to treatment and constant shed would freak anyone out. This is 2.5 years out from course dense black hair and a juvenile hairline.

This is you 2 years ago. You look exactly the same. When people say you need to see a therapist it’s not because they are hating on you, they wanna help you.

 

[CrownBalding]

Even if I deserve hate for still having hair at 42 you have see the huge drop in density. That plus the lack of response to treatment and constant shed would freak anyone out. This is 2.5 years out from course dense black hair and a juvenile hairline.

Oh wow I see the big change you’re talking about now. That sucks, you probably have 6-12 months until you need to shave since you’re a non responder. Try an aggressive regimen or it’s over in less than a year.